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Posted by GregGaub on 05-11-2002 12:45 AM:

Angry Big EFFING ads?!?

What's the deal with the big effing advertisements on this site sometimes? Hlaf the time it's a normal sized banner, and the other half of the time it's this ginormous thing that's double size in both dimensions, totally hosing the formatting of the page in my browser, even at 800 pixels wide!
I've been putting up with it for a while, thinking it was a glitch. Maybe it IS just a glitch, but I'm sick and tired of it. PLEASE look into this problem and fix it. I really hate having to scroll sideways just because of some frigging MiniJam ad that's much too large!

If it makes any difference, I'm on Win 98se, running Opera 6.0 as my default browser.

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Posted by im2smrt4u on 05-11-2002 02:06 AM:

It isn't nearly as bad at 1600x1200.

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Posted by GregGaub on 05-11-2002 04:43 AM:

Actually, I have a 19" monitor at 1600x1200. I just hate to have a single browser window taking up the entire screen. I prefer to have Opera on half, and Eudora on the other half, with various other apps scattered around. As such, the browser is always at 800 pixels wide, which, imho, is even TOO wide to allow web pages to be formatted to. I personally think any web site that can't look good and function properly in a 640x480 window needs to be redesigned, but more and more sites need at least 800x600. That's fine by me, but a banner that forces a page to scroll sideways when the page works fine with a normal sized banner is unacceptable. Is there anyway to force down the size, or hard code it so that all ads appear at the proper size? It's not like they're different style banners or anything. They're all the short and wide banners. I'm guessing they're placed on the fly, though, by some SSI or other similar code, and the image size attributes can't be controlled by the web site.
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Posted by im2smrt4u on 05-11-2002 05:01 AM:

Hehe, true. A website should look nice no matter what browser or resolution you use.

Take a look at my review (see sig). It looks like I just barely pass the "no scrolling" test at 640x480...

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Posted by MarkEagle on 05-11-2002 02:20 PM:

Re: Big EFFING ads?!?

quote:
Originally posted by GregGaub
If it makes any difference, I'm on Win 98se, running Opera 6.0 as my default browser.
I wonder if it's something with your browser. I'm using IE6 and have never seen an oversized banner here at VC (auto resize is not enabled). There have been times, when a page is loading, that the image placeholder exceeds the window size, but it always displays correctly.

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Posted by Pathdoc on 05-11-2002 03:31 PM:

I am using IE6 at home and IE5 at work and see it all of the time at both places. It seems to be specific ads, namely the new Wells Fargo ad and the Minijam ad with the mauve background. It is REALLY annoying to have to scroll to the right.


Here is the link for one annoying MiniJam ad:

http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/11427041.gif

The properties show it to be 728x90 pixels and 29419 bytes

Here is the link for a second annoying MiniJam ad:

http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/54041361.gif

728x90 pixels and 29025 bytes



Next time I see the others, I'll post it here.

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Posted by rjuhl on 05-11-2002 06:02 PM:

Same here

Not quite the end of the world as we know it, but still sorta irritating.

I to am running IE6, and see this happening fairly often.

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Posted by Toby on 05-11-2002 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Pathdoc
I am using IE6 at home and IE5 at work and see it all of the time at both places. It seems to be specific ads, namely the new Wells Fargo ad and the Minijam ad with the mauve background. It is REALLY annoying to have to scroll to the right. [...]
Same here. The Minijam ad seems to be the worst offender. The weird thing is that there is evidently also a smaller version of it.


Posted by ernieba1 on 05-12-2002 11:29 PM:

As I write this message, I'm looking at one of them.

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Posted by dick-richardson on 05-13-2002 04:07 AM:

I'm trying to post with one of the damn things up. I realize there's probably something with the agreement between advertisers, but this should not be allowed.

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Posted by BobbyMike on 05-13-2002 03:09 PM:

I thought it was just me and this computer (I don't notice it at home) here at work. Glad it sucks for most everybody- that means it might get fixed by whomsever is responsible.

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Posted by Yorick on 05-13-2002 05:10 PM:

I'm looking at this thread with a MiniJam ad that's too wide ...
Thing of it is, if the ad were the only thing at the top of the page, it would work. But, most websites (including this one) will have their logo first, with the ad next to it, and the rest of the page is dynamic to the width of the browser window. So the overwide ads basically hijack the width.

This would be easy to fix. VC's ad people or service just need to notify InnoGear that their ads are overwide, and they need to be changed, or (insert ultimatum here).
(Like that'll happen. Users of a free service don't generate revenue, ad sales do.)

* update: while and after making the post, the page was a "regular" size. while making the post, it's someone else's ad. after & while writing this update, it's the MiniJam ad -- shrunk down to fit the appropriate width.
and, on viewing the *edit* it's back to the big f'in MiniJam ad.
Does the ad suffer from schizophrenia? or is its Viagra wearing off/kicking in? what's going on?

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Posted by Pathdoc on 05-13-2002 06:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Yorick
* update: while and after making the post, the page was a "regular" size. while making the post, it's someone else's ad. after & while writing this update, it's the MiniJam ad -- shrunk down to fit the appropriate width.
and, on viewing the *edit* it's back to the big f'in MiniJam ad.
Does the ad suffer from schizophrenia? or is its Viagra wearing off/kicking in? what's going on?



There are two different "king sized" minijam ads, one with a mauve and one with a green backgound. In addition there are two identical "normal" sized minijam ads (same text, image, and backgrounds). When you right click on the ads and select properties, the link to the "king sized" and "normal" ads are different.

BTW, I like spidey. Are you going to do anything for Attack of the Clones? How about the skull with Jar-Jars ears or maybe an Amedala head dress!

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Posted by ToolkiT on 05-14-2002 02:22 AM:

Has anyone emailed Marcus and James yet?

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Posted by Toby on 05-14-2002 02:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ToolkiT
Has anyone emailed Marcus and James yet?
I'm pretty sure that one of them is already aware from another thread. ISTR that it was being investigated.


Posted by Pathdoc on 05-14-2002 04:09 AM:

Here is the link to an "extra large" Wells Fargo ad:

http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/bn/1...-2?mpt=21006266

It is also 728x90 like the MiniJam ads.

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Posted by ToolkiT on 05-14-2002 04:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
I'm pretty sure that one of them is already aware from another thread. ISTR that it was being investigated.


Just spoke to Marcus and he is looking into it..

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Posted by Pathdoc on 05-14-2002 01:15 PM:

Now there is an extra large Earthlink ad. For some reason I cannot pull up the properties to give you the specifics.

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Posted by im2smrt4u on 05-14-2002 04:18 PM:

More big minijam ads:

http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/54041361.gif
http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/11427041.gif

728 x 90 also.

And the small versions:

http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/61500892.gif
http://www.visorcentral.com/adintel...rs/75054478.gif

468 x 60 for these.

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Posted by Pathdoc on 05-14-2002 10:20 PM:

I just noticed a lot more room at the top of the page. I guess that this is to take care of the problem with the extra large ads. It is a shame that VC had to change its page instead of the supplier of the ads changing the ad's size. It does eliminate the need to scroll to the right. Thanks!

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