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Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by dick-richardson
[...] So, now we're at the point where my mother is watching my son more than the preschool, and the preschool is still getting my $400/mnth. My son is also constantly asking my mother if he is a good boy, and (after being incredibly well behaved) why isn't he getting yelled at. Possibly I'm oversensitive (I understand being locked in a closet by a babysitter when one is a child will do that - I still hate 101 Dalmations, but that's a different story), but I'm labelling the relationship as abusive.

Pay your mom the $400/month and leave the kid with her all the time, if she'll go along with that. You're not a bit oversensitve, IMO. That's just wrong.

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To be fair, my son at 4 is larger and weighs more than my 6 y/o sister. He can also count to 20, speak 4 syllable words, recite his alphabet, and remember the trip we took to see my father last year (first thing he says when we get there this summer? I wanna ride the tractor with grandpa - he has no exposure to tractors at home and probably limited exposure at the preschool).

Well, not to brag, but my daughter can do all that and she's not even three yet.

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Unfortunately, he can cuss like a sailor (proper syntax, the whole works, much to my chagrin) [...]

Unfortunately, that too on occasion (much to my wife's chagrin). I warned her. At least she does it in proper context, though.

11-22-2002 03:28 PM

fixitgal
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Take heart...

You're not the only one with a "problem" pre-schooler... My youngest was a "biter" and was constantly being sent home for biting other children. It's fairly typical behavior for a three year old, but it's very disconcerting.

It wasn't until I showed them the bites on her arm that I was able to prove it was in "self defense." I recommended that they needed more supervision in the classroom. It was the day before they were going to "remove" her from the school. They added an extra teacher, and the problem disappeared. Funny how that happens...

As for the cussing... they are remarkable in repeating what they hear! My daughters even mimicked my husbands gestures (hands on hips, head tilted to one side...) while they did it. I warned him...

They grow up fast (yep, even husbands) and before you know it, they'll be off to college. My oldest left in September, and I'm still a little blue... Still stuck with the husband though.

I hope you'll be able to laugh about this in a few years.

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11-22-2002 04:02 PM

dick-richardson
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby
Pay your mom the $400/month and leave the kid with her all the time, if she'll go along with that. You're not a bit oversensitve, IMO. That's just wrong.

That's the plan. Both my wife and my mother want my son removed gradually. I just want him out. I've ceded the point, but it chafes.

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Well, not to brag, but my daughter can do all that and she's not even three yet.

That's quite impressive. He couldn't recite the alphabet before three, but he could identify every letter, upper and lower case. Bragging is fun. My son changes the languages for his games (on my wife's mac thankfully) to German/Swedish/whatever, rearranges the keys, and relearns the game from scratch. When he gets bored, he does it again. He's starting to figure out analog clocks.

Emotionally, however, he just turn 4 two weeks ago and needs to be treated at that level. Not that a modicum of caring isn't called for at any age...

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11-22-2002 05:47 PM

dick-richardson
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick
well, you know, that means you're a bad parent, since your kid is demonstrating the typical and societal norm of a four-year-old.

Absolutely.

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what preschool is this? I want to take my smiting hammer to the school board.

Yeah. Here's the funny part. It's run by the local YMCA. Go figure.

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waitasec -- you have a six year old sister?

Half-sister, yep. It's another long story. I have 7 half-siblings but was raised as an only child until 15.

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11-22-2002 05:50 PM

Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by dick-richardson
That's the plan. Both my wife and my mother want my son removed gradually. I just want him out. I've ceded the point, but it chafes.

It should. It's a Band-Aid analogy. Pull it off now. You don't get to do the childhood development thing twice.

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That's quite impressive.

Well, my mom claims that I was reading food labels at 2.5. I'm personally doubtful, but I do know that I was fully capable of reading the encyclopedia (and dictionary when necessary) at 4, so I'm not surprised. She does rock, though. She's also going to get things like computers which didn't exist when I was that age, so hopefully she'll eclipse her old man quite handily (mommy's hardly a slouch either).

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He couldn't recite the alphabet before three, but he could identify every letter, upper and lower case. Bragging is fun. My son changes the languages for his games (on my wife's mac thankfully) to German/Swedish/whatever, rearranges the keys, and relearns the game from scratch. When he gets bored, he does it again. He's starting to figure out analog clocks.

Coolness. He needs to be in a more positive environment, ASAP, IMO.

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Emotionally, however, he just turn 4 two weeks ago and needs to be treated at that level. Not that a modicum of caring isn't called for at any age...

I think that's the problem that many have. They forget that while intellectual development can sometimes eclipse age, emotional development is hard to speed up. That's why I purposefully sabotaged some of that stuff for myself early. Book learnin' ain't all there is to life.

11-22-2002 05:59 PM

MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby
I think that's the problem that many have. They forget that while intellectual development can sometimes eclipse age, emotional development is hard to speed up.

Part of the problem we have with today's kids is that we're not letting them be kids!

When my 11 and 13 yr old daughters were younger (6-7), I made a conscious decision to let them remain "children" for as long as they wanted to... I wasn't going to force them to give up the stuffed animals or a favorite "blankie". Too many kids "grow up" too damned fast... it just isn't the same as when I was young (not that I can remember back that far).

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11-23-2002 12:43 AM

Yorick
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkEagle
it just isn't the same as when I was young (not that I can remember back that far).

heh heh. You're old.

I hope to keep the same sense of wonder I had when I was a child until I die.

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11-23-2002 01:08 AM

John Nowak
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick

I hope to keep the same sense of wonder I had when I was a child until I die.

Easy -- support your local science museum.

When I was a kid, the planetarium shows made Neptune this featureless blue circle. Now they throw up actual photographs showing cloud structure. Man!

11-25-2002 07:00 PM

Yorick
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quote:
Originally posted by John Nowak
Easy -- support your local science museum.

the "local science museum" for this podunk is about 70 miles away.

wah.

I'm really referring to the beauty of a sunset, the fascination with leaves changing color (I stil get that way, even tho I have to rake the damn things up later), the majesty of hot air baloons, how easy it is to shock your mom after scuffing your feet on carpet ...

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11-26-2002 11:45 AM

KRamsauer
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10000 views. Wow.

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11-26-2002 07:15 PM

MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by KRamsauer
10000 views.

That's nothin'... the still MIA USB/ROM How-To thread had over 22k the last time I checked (before it disappeared). It was far and away our most popular thread in terms of views. I've asked marcus a few times to try and restore it but he keeps forgetting.

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11-27-2002 01:57 AM

Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkEagle
That's nothin'... the still MIA USB/ROM How-To thread had over 22k the last time I checked (before it disappeared). It was far and away our most popular thread in terms of views. I've asked marcus a few times to try and restore it but he keeps forgetting.

It's gone? That thread alone could justify the raison d'etre of this site. Did it roll out because of inactive time or something?

11-27-2002 03:24 AM

ToolkiT
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby

It's gone? That thread alone could justify the raison d'etre of this site. Did it roll out because of inactive time or something?

I believe it disappeared due to 'technical difficulties'...

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11-27-2002 03:28 AM

MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by ToolkiT
'technical difficulties'

Yeah, something like that. I've tried to get it back but couldn't. Marcus said he probably could... maybe I'll have to bug him again.

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11-27-2002 02:49 PM

KRamsauer
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quote:
Originally posted by ToolkiT

I believe it disappeared due to 'technical difficulties'...

Sounds like what a mobster would say about a hit in Silicon Valley.

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11-27-2002 02:54 PM

dick-richardson
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He's out. Got his stuff and paid the bill on Friday. My wife's mom and mine are taking shifts. Surprisingly enough , he's picked up small words since monday (a, an).

The question is now, where to go from here.

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12-04-2002 02:50 PM

Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by dick-richardson
He's out. Got his stuff and paid the bill on Friday. My wife's mom and mine are taking shifts. Surprisingly enough , he's picked up small words since monday (a, an).

The question is now, where to go from here.

Disneyworld?

12-04-2002 03:10 PM

Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkEagle
Yeah, something like that. I've tried to get it back but couldn't. Marcus said he probably could... maybe I'll have to bug him again.

In case you didn't notice, I resurrected the base of that thread.

12-10-2002 02:18 PM

MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby
In case you didn't notice

Yes, I did notice, Toby. Thank you.

Even though it's not THE thread, it's better than nothing, I suppose.

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12-11-2002 12:11 AM

miradu
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Hey.. Ok i did some digging in the database today and found the original thread! I haven't figured out why it won't display yet .. However, it hasn't been deleted and i have all 87 posts of it in the database. (threadID 4884)
(10 mintues later)
I DID IT!

I changed the thread to be in the Treo General forum (I couldn't think of a better one) AND YOU CAN NOW ACCESS IT from this address!
http://discussion.treocentral.com/t...;threadid=04884

Enjoy! IT is also searchable now! hhehe i feel good

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