dick-richardson
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Location: Aberdeen, SD
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Originally posted by timmins
let me take this at face value... you have a wife, a kid, and you're 22? But, I am not able to judge you unless I am 40 years older. Ok, maybe I understand now.
You called me a kid. Rather like the pot calling the kettle black, unless you're old enough to be my parent. You aren't. Clear it up any?
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You see Dick. This is where you went wrong. I made the comments before about AvantGo not releasing a Mac version because the MARKET SHARE is PC. You would be lucky to admit if Apple has 20% of the market. And you and your "Sherlock" find the webpage that has this information, let's just hope if doesn't come from www.apple.com. Try http://www.forrester.com. I would also like you to show me where Mac programmers outnumber PC programmers.
That's funny. No where did I mention or care about market share or the number of programmers the Apple platform has. My point was the cost issue, and I think it's been settled. You can piece together a pc for cheaper than a mac.
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And then upon that, I want you to drive to Chicago and you and I can take the "El" to Hubbard downtown here where AvantGo developed 4.0. We will take a head count of PC vs. Mac developers. THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO MAC RELEASE.
Avantgo hasn't had any trouble releasing mac versions before. They should've released v.4 for the mac along with v.4 for the pc. They aren't obligated to do so (especially considering the price of their service), but it would've reflected favorably upon the company.
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But, you ran your mouth and you saw joshie would couldn't control his mouth either and started discussing why your loyalty to your blue case has something to do with market share.
Where did I mention market share? I'd like you to quote that for me. That is why you argue poorly. You aren't able to distinguish who said what, you bring in exterraneous information and personal opinions that have nothing to do with the argument at hand (e.g. age, post count, etc.), etc..
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If you think your blue case is going to make AvantGO sink or swim in this dot-bomb era, you're wrong again. So, what would a competitive content providing company do? Release for the biggest market share they have... who knows, maybe PPC users (MOSTLY PC!) are their biggest market share. Did you ever come to think of that? I mean, I have AvantGO on my Visor and my Jornada.
Good for you. I again never said that Avantgo would sink or swim depending on their mac development. I would appreciate it if you could at least understand the argument before "running your mouth."
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Ok, back on task... so you ran your mouth about how you bought your mommy a iMac. Great...
I never bought my mom a mac. You seem to have a problem with reality. I have encouraged my mother to buy a mac, because they are less technical machines and easy to learn. I'm not writing the check for it, though.
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but then you made the mistake that your harmom/kardon and mic laden Mac are better than a PC. But, you didn't lay down rules until after that a hand-built PC doesn't count.
They are for what I need it for. You were the one that said that you could show me a pc that would serve my need better and cost less. You haven't yet.
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Again, you're wrong and I can't wait for you to get all charged up again and write me back. My son (since now I am your elder) you need to calm down, you will be headed for a heart-ache with your "argumentative skills"
You're being pretentious. And my argumentative skill haven't led me to heart-ache yet. I am aware of when it's best not to argue (e.g. anytime, ever, with my wife � she wins regardless of topic; I'm still not sure how that happens). But against a mac-basher in a public forum over the internet? I have no compunction punching holes through your logic.
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you see Dick. I wrote you a personal email because you and I have a history of not getting along.
Again, I don't go through my day getting worked up over what you're going to post. I don't know who you are, nor have reason to care. This is more of a mental exercise than anything else, and filled with the same amount of feeling as working on a Rubik's Cube (which, come to think of it, resembles the way you argue).
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Your a country boy (I can't imagine what kind of city South Dakota has) and I am the city folk who comes in and raises the value of your property.
Not a very big city. Aberdeen is 25,000 strong. But allow me to point out that location has nothing to do with the validity of our respective arguments.
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I wrote you an personal email because this argument sinks way beyond this conversation. It's almost personal, and that's why I was eager to discuss this on Off-Topic.
Which we are. I think you sent the first email because you were poignantly aware that if you said the same thing on VC, the post would've been deleted, the thread locked, and you membership abruptly ended.
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Again, would this fall under your opinion... because if I recall correctly I did have one Mac user side with me on my argument. Which in my understanding in arguing, making your "opponent" see your side is the proper method. Not that I claimed a victory, but my PC vs. Mac cost points were well stated and almost widely agreed upon.
Yes, they were. Even by myself (with regard to self-built systems early on, and pre-packaged ones later). I have no problem conceeding points in an argument when information I'm not aware of is presented. I'd point out that it was Toby and homer who brought that information to my attention, while you were busy pissing and moaning how "right" you were.
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By the way, I just rebuilt and old machine and was having troubles installing the PCI modem's drivers until I removed it, installed the drivers, and then replaced it. In your iMac... would you have to send the monitor and all back to the repair shop? Want to discuss convenience now?
I'm fully aware of how easy it is to work with pc's. I work part-time at a pc repair/assembly and computer lounge. I'm also aware of how many times people have had to bring in their systems for mundane problems like the one you mentioned. It's as easy for the common joe to do the repair you mentioned as it would be for them to do it with a mac (if you'd need to do it at all � one advantage of selling hardware and software that's designed for each other, without having to support a bunch of different makers' components) � cryptically impossible.
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