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foo fighter
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Well, here it is. The first review I have seen for the new Prism. Check it out:


http://www.pencomputing.com/palm/Pe...smplatinum.html

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Thanks, foo! It was a really informative review. Now I know why they demonstrated Prism only with SoundGood and not MiniJam. Also I have to think about a new case, too since it doesn't take snap-on cover. I doubt it will fit in Innogear case that came with MiniJam, either.... An excuse to look for a new case

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Here is CNET's review:

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/...085-404-2319333

Not so good.

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Yeah, but C|Net actually likes windoze-powered (or whatever the hell they're calling them now) handhelds, so I don't really trust they're opinion at all when it comes to PDAs. Also remember they gave the Visor a rather low review for no real reason when it came out. The Pen Computing review is about 100x more in depth, so I'm mure more likely to trust it.

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I don't think they like handspring in general. The VDx only rates 7. I think it has proven to be more than that with the new modules released. I don't feel that the review is slightly skewed. just my opinion.

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quote:
Originally posted by Leshrac
Yeah, but C|Net actually likes windoze-powered handhelds


I especially like how they have the last generation Casio E-100 among their "current" top picks, even though Casio stopped making the E-100 almost a year ago. What's up with that?

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quote:
Originally posted by fmlydoc
I don't think they like handspring in general. The VDx only rates 7. I think it has proven to be more than that with the new modules released. I don't feel that the review is slightly skewed. just my opinion.

Marc



Just to add onto this point, one of the cons of the VDX listed on CNET is the lack of usable springboards. While that might have been true a month ago, they should update their rating to reflect the fact that there are a slew of new springboards that have been released that do in fact improve on the functionality of the Visor. (I don't think the same is true of the IPAQ and its sleves.)

However, its hard to believe they actually have something against Handspring, with that big Handspring banner running right above their Top 5 handhelds ratings table.

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Unhappy Ouch!!

Ouch! That C|Net Prism review is harsh! I can't trust C|net's reviews anyways because they are too bias.

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Well, I think C|net's review was on the mark. As for the Prism, I don't think I need the color....I would if it weren't for the fact that the pixels are 160 x 160. I know this is a limitation of the PalmOS....but it matters to me.

Like many others, I also don't want to deal with rechargeable batteries. My Visor spends plenty of time in it's cradle, but for the few times when I away from home, I want to be able to grab a set of batteries at teh closet store and keep running.

Finally, the OS upgrade and the speed are what interest me, and I think the Platinum is what I will buy. I'd like to be able to play Gameboy games without the slow down.

Once they release a high resolution screen in color, they have my money, but until then.....I'm greyscaling it.

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For my purposes in selecting a color PDA, I would select the Compaq IPAQ over the Prism mainly because I use Microsoft Office at home and work. I wouldn't need additional Palm software to keep information I work with stored in the PDA. With that in mind, they both cost the same.
That basically is the bottom line for me and I'm sure others that use the Office platform.
However for greyscale platforms, the Visor wins because of the Springboard slot. That is what sold me on the Visor compared to other Palm based PDA's. I also reasoned that it would take close to a year for Springboard modules to appear because of the R&D costs and whether or not the Visor would sell well enough to support these costs.
I cannot see the reasoning for faulting Handspring because of the lack of modules. From the start they had the Backup Module, 8 meg module, Golf game, and Modem. The door was left open for anybody to create a Springboard without having to pay royalties (anybody remember the TI-99 and game modules?).

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I think we're forgetting one type of user here. I will never use anything but palm OS because of its proven reliability and the ability to get software to fit any need. For people like me you're looking at the best color device with the Palm OS. Granted the price is high, but it'll drop in time. Putting color in the visor leads to some complications, but I think Handspring worked around them beautifully. The prism is for people like me who refuse to have anything to do with ween-dows CE devices and like color.
Of course my opinion could change after my trial period. Who knows, I may stick with my vDx, but for Palm OS color it's prism or IIIc and I've got my money on prism.

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quote:
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I think we're forgetting one type of user here. I will never use anything but palm OS because of its proven reliability and the ability to get software to fit any need.

Agreed.

After my brother had played with his new Visor for a few weeks, he was annoyed at the "negative image" effect the backlight had.

I told him about the GreenLight hack, which fixed the problem.
I further explained that if some feature of the Visor annoyed him, chances are that it has also annoyed a Palm/Visor programmer somewhere. So a cursory search of the huge library of Palm software will probably yield fruit.

This is definitely not the case with PocketPC software.

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Also agreed. The only reasoned I'd ever buy a PocketPC device *shudder* would be to overwrite the OS with Linux.

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You thought CNet was negative?

I didn't think the CNet review was all that bad considering that it was written by a PPC fan. iPaq advocates are starting to remind me of Mac zealots circa 1997 (flame shield). Check out the acerbic "Prism sux/iPaq rulez" posts on PDABuzz on the Prism announcement, which put the CNet reviewer's opinion into perspective.

I personally don't compare Palm OS products with CE products. The Visor Prism is the best color PDA for someone in the market for a Palm OS unit, and the iPaq is the best PPC. When MS eliminates heirarchical menu and file navigation from the WinCE UI, I'll switch to an iPaq, but right now the desktop metaphor is the once thing that puts me off of getting an iPaq -- regardless of better resolution, MP3, etc. I'm going for the Prism.

[Edited by Gameboy70 on 10-17-2000 at 08:46 PM]

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Angry "Get the much cheaper Nintendo Game Boy Color instead"

I am on the verge of losing all respect for c|net. Their Prism review recommended that if you're most interested in playing games you should get the Game Boy Color! WHAT?! Nobody buys a PDA to play games. The prism is no more gaming hardware than the Game Boy is a PDA.

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quote:
Originally posted by swendor
I am on the verge of losing all respect for c|net. Their Prism review recommended that if you're most interested in playing games you should get the Game Boy Color! WHAT?! Nobody buys a PDA to play games. The prism is no more gaming hardware than the Game Boy is a PDA.



Had a problem with this part of the review too. That is why I think it was harsh. The Reviewer had no need to tell people to get a gameboy.. What does a gameboy have to do with anything? C|net probably gave Handspring a 6 to save face because Handspring is a big advertiser on their site.

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