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trudenko
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I am pleased to announce an affordable 16 Mb RAM upgrade for Prism.
You can check http://www.palmpilotupgrade.com for more details.

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BHansen
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Thumbs up 16 Mb RAM upgrade for Visor Prism is available

Get this!

Trust me.

Bruce, The PDA P.A.

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Scottster
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When will this upgrade be available? I've sent a few e-mails to Mr. Rudenko, but they have gone unanswered. I'm waiting for him to contact me so we can arrange the upgrade of my Prism. From the comments on his website, he does absolutely incredible work. I'm just trying to find out firsthand. I want my extra 8MB so much I'm getting giddy!

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kalahari
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quote:
Originally posted by Scottster
When will this upgrade be available? ...

Tony been been doing these upgrades for weeks now. He did mine a while back and I have no complaints. You might want to consider STNE Corp who do it for $10 less.

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trudenko
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it's been available since March 14th for

Visor Prism. The rest of models were added on the 2nd of April. The company is in the upgrade business for over 3 years.

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ricojrossi
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Cool

Tony took a short vacation. He has done my Prism and Platinum. I am loaded for bear.

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Scottster
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I imagine that STNE is probably a good company, but I won't trust anyone but Tony with his excellent reputation to do my upgrade. I realize Tony's been on vacation, but he still hasn't answered my e-mails even though he's been posting here on Visor Central for two days. It's just getting a little frustrating wondering what my status is.

I also sent him a question asking whether I'd have any problems if I backed up my 8MB Prism to the Handspring Backup module and then did a restore to my newly upgraded 16MB Prism. Anyone else feel like fielding this question?

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StiMPy
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No problem scottster...I did exactly that to my Prism when I upgraded it. (Granted I used the flash module and Jackback, but the principle is the same).

Enjoy.
-Stimp.

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eboychik
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What about backing up 16 MBs? Anyone have any experience with the Hagiwara 16MB module? It's not a b/u module, but it's all i can think of. How about CF backup?
Anyone have any thoughts?

EBoychik

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StiMPy
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Hagiwara 16mb module with JackBack works just fine.
In fact, I recommend it.

Cheers,
Stimp.

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Scottster
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I've heard that the 16MB flash module works great. I plan on picking one up. I'll use file mover on the module to transfer my data. I then plan on using the USB version of FileMover available as a free download from CardAccess' ThinModem+ website to transfer (backup) data from the flash module onto the hard drive on my desktop. OR, I could just buy a copy of BackupBuddy. Until someone comes up with a 16MB module that has the same functionality as the Handspring backup module, we'll have to use creative solutions to back up 16 MB of data from the Prism and still have the Hagiwara card available for its own data.

FWIW, Tony reached out to me tonight. I'm totally looking forward to joining the ranks of his satisfied customers who've used his much touted services. I can't wait to have a 16MB Prism hopefully within a few days!!

Hmmm... is it me, or do I sound like a palmpilotupgrade commercial? LOL. I can't imagine why Handspring didn't think of offering a 16MB Prism (maybe as a Prism Deluxe.) Oh well, their loss!

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Scottster
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quote:
Originally posted by StiMPy
Hagiwara 16mb module with JackBack works just fine.


Stimp - I thought JackBack was used for accessing the Flash ROM on devices that had that type of memory (eg. Palms, IBM, TRG, etc.) Why don't you just use the FileMover app that comes on the SB Flash card?

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StiMPy
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Scottster:

JackFLASH is used to access the flash ROM. JackBACK (by the same company) offers the very functionality you're looking for--one button backup of all your data, just like the Handspring backup module. The Filemover app is not a reliable solution for complete backups and restores in the event of a catastrophic hard reset...and believe me, I've tried! ...Too many conflicts with leftover databases and prefs/wierd system files, etc. The money I spent on Jackback was WELL worth it--I've emptied and restored my Prism a number of times in the last few days (while testing my RAM upgrade) and JackBACK was flawless. In addition, it actually compresses your data, meaning you have left over space on your flash module to store volatile databases. (My 8mb of data compresses down to 5). Finally, Jackback has an archive function, which allows you to quickly compress an app to your flash module, and delete it from ram. When you want to use it again, it will quickly restore it from the module back to RAM, and all settings and preferences, as well as databases and functionality will be retained. Highly recommended. Good peace of mind.

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This sounds like a pretty good solution except that it uses the Flash Module to backup data when that relatively expensive module would be better put to use as an additional 16MB of available memory. I'm looking for a module I could back up to and put aside. I want to still be able to use my 16MB module to hold all my docs, photos, TealMovies, HanDBase databases, FireViewer files, etc. for this solution to work best, I'd have to have TWO Hagiwara modules. One for backup and one for flash memory. Unless of coures, the CardAccess USB FileMover (which I only read about but haven't yet tried) works with JackBack and will archive the contents of the Flash Module (put there by JackBack) to my desktop's hard drive.

Do you feel like downloading Filemover from CardAccess http://www.cardaccess-inc.com/support.html and trying it out using a 16MB visor and the Hagiwara card? The website says FileMover is for the 8MB Flash memory in the ThinModem+ but I read it works with any flash module. It allows direct access to and from the flash module using a PC instead of having to first transfer to Prism's RAM. Wadayathink?

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Scottster
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quote:
Originally posted by James Hromadka in a VisorCentral Review
To sweeten the deal even more, by using the bonus software USB FileMover (UFM), Thinmodem Plus users can install applications directly to the Visor or TM+'s memory without using HotSync. This is very handy for when you want to quickly install an application or when your Visor's memory is too full to let you install something. Alas, UFM only works with Windows, so I can't use it with my Apple PowerBook G4. On my Windows PC, however, transfers were vary fast.

You can copy files to/from the module's memory and can even copy hidden applications like FileMover to your desktop. UFM only works with Card Access products. Other flash memory modules can copy data to your desktop but not vice versa. I think Card Access should make a version of UFM that works with other modules and sell it. I know people would buy it. You can download UFM from Card Access' support section.

Okay, after remembering where I read about UFM, I realize I was mistaken in stating that you could restore to a non-CardAccess module from the desktop. Guess we're back to square one. Does anyone following this thread have any ideas? Sounds to me like BackUpBuddy is our best bet if we can't afford two 16MB modules and JackBack. I haven't tried BackUpBuddy, how does it work? Does it prolong my Hotsyncs?

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eboychik
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backUpBuddy

It does work, and well, but it takes some time. I have it on my iMac at home and on my PC at work. The PC version offers a greater range of user preferences, but they both work. But definitely, using the backup module is the fastest way to go.
FYI, I've found (and I'm sure I'm not the first) a quicker way to copy all my files to a regular 8 MB module. I select all the files on the Visor, start to copy. Since nearly all of them are there, when it gets to the first one that is on both, and it asks if I want to copy it anyway, I answer yes. After the first one or two files, I gently pop the module out. 90% of the time, it goes back to my Visor screen, the other 10% it gets stuck and makes me do a reset with a paper clip. Either way, when I put the module back into the Visor, it tells me it's been corrupted and needs reformatting. I let it reformat, and then cop all my files. It's much quicker copying to an empty module than a full one.
So I seem to have several options.I am waiting to hear from Japan on the 16 MB module, and I also have a 64 MB CF card in the Matchbox module, along with the fileMover software Backup Buddy is fine if I'm home, but if I crash on the road, I need a reliable portable solution for backing up. I bet a 16 MB b/u module comes on the market soon,butuntil then I'll experiment and report back on what seems to work best for me.
Final thing: I'm having a lot of fun with IcoEdit,which changes the names and visuals of icons on my Prism (b/w visuals only - if you change a color icon, it makes it b/w with your changes, and it doesn't handle PQAs yet). There have been any number of badly named programs that I have renamed, and I've cleaned up some sloppy icons. You can always revert back to the original, so you can experiment. I recommend this if you enjoy tweaking your Visor - but then, you wouldn't be reading about 16MB upgrades if you weren't.
Fortunately, I leave a half hour from Tony, and I'm dropping off my Prism later this afternoon. I haven't been without it since I bought it in December, and I'm already going through withdrawal pains, but I should have it back in 48 hours or so.

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Scottster
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Re: backUpBuddy

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It does work, and well, but it takes some time. I have it on my iMac at home and on my PC at work. The PC version offers a greater range of user preferences, but they both work. But definitely, using the backup module is the fastest way to go.
Are you referring to BackUpBuddy? If so, when you say it takes time, do you mean when I choose to do a backup or every time I hotsync? I don't use BackUpBuddy so I don't know how it works. I use the Backup Module, which will be obsolete after Tony does my upgrade.

I, too, live pretty close to Tony and I'll be there this afternoon also. I know what you mean about withdrawl. I wanted to do the upgrade last week while I was on vacation so I didn't have to be without my Prism at work, but as luck would have it, Tony was on vacation too.

I've been using IcoEdit since my VDX days. Once I moved up to the Prism, I immediately contacted MapleTop Software inquiring about a color version of IcoEdit. I was told there will eventually be one, but was given no time estimate.

I'm a little confused about your whole "pop out the module in the middle of the transfer" method. Can you run that by us again? And wouldn't my 8MB backup and Flash module be useless to back up a 16MB Prism? I'd imagine I can only get half my RAM onto the Flash module (and I can't even guess what would happen if you tried to back up 16MB onto the Handspring 8MB Backup Module)

Right now, I'm just concerned that my final backup onto the 8MB Backup Module from my pre-upgraded Prism will be able to restore onto the upgraded 16MB Prism. Nobody has answered this definitively and set my mind to rest.

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kalahari
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Re: Re: backUpBuddy

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... Right now, I'm just concerned that my final backup onto the 8MB Backup Module from my pre-upgraded Prism will be able to restore onto the upgraded 16MB Prism. Nobody has answered this definitively and set my mind to rest.

Yes, it will work. That's what I did to restore my apps onto the Prism that Tony upgraded for me.

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Scottster
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Thanks Kalahari. My mind is now eased and I'm downright tingly with excitement about my impending upgrade. Yeah... I need a life, I know. LMAO!!

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Re: popping out the module

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Originally posted by Scottster

I'm a little confused about your whole "pop out the module in the middle of the transfer" method. Can you run that by us again? And wouldn't my 8MB backup and Flash module be useless to back up a 16MB Prism? I'd imagine I can only get half my RAM onto the Flash module (and I can't even guess what would happen if you tried to back up 16MB onto the Handspring 8MB Backup Module)

Right now, I'm just concerned that my final backup onto the 8MB Backup Module from my pre-upgraded Prism will be able to restore onto the upgraded 16MB Prism. Nobody has answered this definitively and set my mind to rest.



As far as I know, unless you could compress it all with Mem Maker, you can't fit 16 MB on an 8MB disk. The "popping it out in the middle" is really a quick way to delete everything on a standard 8MB (non-b/u) module for quicker copying to it. I guess it takes longer to read, erase, and write to the 8MB module than to merely write to it. If you tried to select "all" on a module, and then "delete," it would still take a long time.

FYI, I haven't checked out JackBack, and I will, but right now I'm backing up everything on my Visor to a CF disk to see how long it takes, using FAFileMover. One annoying thing is it doesn't give you a "total progress" feature, like on a back-up module. It's been 9 minutes, and I have no idea how far along I am.
More will be revealed. Scottster - maybe we'll meet this afternoon!

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