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foo fighter
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Palm buys Be!

Check this out:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-20....html?tag=mn_hd

Wow, that was unexpected.

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08-16-2001 03:06 PM

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Re: Palm buys Be!

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Originally posted by foo fighter
Wow, that was unexpected.

Not Entirely..

But, I had doubted it.. This is really good, I think. Really good.

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08-16-2001 03:09 PM

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Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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But, I had doubted it.. This is really good, I think. Really good.

Me to. I would have suspected another company before Palm. But this is definitely good news for Palm. It means we may now see a really diverse product line that extends beyond PDAs. I wonder if we'll see the BeOS kernel, which is UNIX based, as the plumbing for OS 5?

Cool.

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08-16-2001 03:15 PM

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Let's see if this has an effect on Palm's stock. I just visited CNET's stock listings. Palm still hovering around $4.00. Bet it goes up soon. Hopefully.

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08-16-2001 03:18 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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I wonder if we'll see the BeOS kernel, which is UNIX based, as the plumbing for OS 5?

Lord, I hope so. Imagine choosing between two Arm devices, one with an OS based on WinCE or one with an OS based on BeOS. It's no choice at all.

Palm may conquer and destroy all in its path yet...

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08-16-2001 03:19 PM

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Where does this leave HS?

Damn fine move, Palm!

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08-16-2001 03:27 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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Lord, I hope so. Imagine choosing between two Arm devices, one with an OS based on WinCE or one with an OS based on BeOS. It's no choice at all.

Amen. Microsoft named thier OS well.."Wince". I just hope when Palm moves towards a multitasking, multithreading, multimedia OS, they don't travel down the same path as Microsoft by using such a lame memory architecture like "Shared memory" or dynamic allocation. Yeah, I always loved fighting with my PocketPC over what program gets what chunk of memory, by using the stupid slider.

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Palm may conquer and destroy all in its path yet...

Ah, what a coup that would be. I must say though, it's about friggin time Palm got off its lazy ass a did something.

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08-16-2001 03:33 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by dick-richardson
Where does this leave HS?

As a licensee they can look forward to a potentially kick ass OS that will offer a quantem leap in power, performance, and functionality that could mop the floor with WinCE.

By the way, does anyone else see the irony that Microsoft's CE now competes with Palm's BE? =)

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08-16-2001 07:59 PM

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Ha Ha

quote:
Originally posted by foo fighter
Let's see if this has an effect on Palm's stock. I just visited CNET's stock listings. Palm still hovering around $4.00. Bet it goes up soon. Hopefully.

Foo I gather that you have Palm stock? It doesn't appear that Palm investors are digeting the news well. Handspring's stock is worth more than Palm's stock now.

08-16-2001 08:10 PM

foo fighter
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Re: Ha Ha

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Foo I gather that you have Palm stock?

NO WAY! Too volatile for my blood.

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08-16-2001 08:13 PM

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BeOs flavored

With a BeOS flavored Palm OS, there is no need for Handspring to flirt with WinCE. Next year will be the most exciting year for PDAs IMO. I can't wait!

quote:
Originally posted by foo fighter

As a licensee they can look forward to a potentially kick ass OS that will offer a quantem leap in power, performance, and functionality that could mop the floor with WinCE.

By the way, does anyone else see the irony that Microsoft's CE now competes with Palm's BE? =)

08-16-2001 08:13 PM

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Re: BeOs flavored

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With a BeOS flavored Palm OS, there is no need for Handspring to flirt with WinCE. Next year will be the most exciting year for PDAs IMO. I can't wait!

I agree. The digesting of Be means that Palm can tap into an incredibly robust OS. One that is a far more elegant solution than CE. The only downside to this is that we most likely won't see this new supercharged PalmOS until next year at the earliest.

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08-16-2001 08:17 PM

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Now Handspring needs to absorb Palm's hardware division. Innovation will happen in bounds and MS will get thrashed. I don't think we've seen Microsoft get ugly in the pda arena yet. This is looking to be a good time.

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08-16-2001 09:12 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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Originally posted by foo fighter

Me to. I would have suspected another company before Palm. But this is definitely good news for Palm. It means we may now see a really diverse product line that extends beyond PDAs. I wonder if we'll see the BeOS kernel, which is UNIX based, as the plumbing for OS 5?

Cool.

BeOS is NOT UNIX-based! It is POSIX-compliant, but that is it. It was completely written from scratch. It does use the BASH shell, however.

Palm buys the technology behind the greates OS the world has ever seen for a paltry $11 million. Damn I wish I had a rich uncle!

I wonder how this is going to affect us BeOS users. Hopefully we will see BONE, OpenGL, Opera 5 and the other things we've been waiting so long for. This is very good for Palm, though. BeIA kicks the snot out of WinCE on internet applinaces, and with Palm's move to ARM-based procesors, a Be-flavored PalmOS 5 should totally put WinCE to shame!

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08-16-2001 09:16 PM

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I've only been reading about BeOS for a few minutes, but I'm impressed! I may have to take back some of my pointed comments about Carl. I wonder what the relation is between this and Palm Inc's head of OS resigning (effective tomorrow).

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08-16-2001 10:08 PM

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Well, an idea to buy a new (color) Handspring non-OS-upgradable
device instead of my VDX seems now a bit less appealing...

08-16-2001 10:13 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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Originally posted by Galley_SimRacer
Palm buys the technology behind the greates OS the world has ever seen for a paltry $11 million. Damn I wish I had a rich uncle!

I was wondering when you would chime in.

As a posted said on /. , I guess this means future Palm devices will have a little LED meter on the side, indicating Processor usage.

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08-16-2001 10:18 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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Originally posted by Galley_SimRacer
BeOS is NOT UNIX-based! It is POSIX-compliant, but that is it. It was completely written from scratch. It does use the BASH shell, however.

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know Be was a POSIX derivative. Guess that means it has more in common with Linux than UNIX. Or is MINUX? I'm not that familiar with BeOS other than the few times I used 5.0, which I have to say is by far the most elegant easy to use *NIX style OS I have ever seen. Be is the first OS that I immediately understood the moment I grabbed the mouse. Not only did I find it brain dead simple, but, much I actually prefered it to Windows! Unfortunatly without apps it wasn't of much use to me.

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Palm buys the technology behind the greates OS the world has ever seen for a paltry $11 million. Damn I wish I had a rich uncle!

Ha! Bet Gassee really regrets turning down that 125 million offer from Apple now. 11 mil is chump change compared to that.

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I wonder how this is going to affect us BeOS users. Hopefully we will see BONE, OpenGL, Opera 5 and the other things we've been waiting so long for.

The real question is, will Palm build any of this into the next OS?

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08-16-2001 10:50 PM

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Palm buys Be!

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Originally posted by dietrichbohn
I guess this means future Palm devices will have a little LED meter on the side, indicating Processor usage.

Does this means we will be able to bring up the Bash Shell on our Palm's? =)

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08-16-2001 10:56 PM