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hitman
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M125 Screen

I just read the review of the M125 at PalmInfocenter.com

It said the M125 has a plastic screen rather than glass and therefore much less likely to break.

Anyone know if there is or will be one for the Visor? A plastic screen seems logical on a PDA! I haven't broken my screen yet, but when I do, plastic would be good...

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creole
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Doesn't plastic have less conductivity though? That means that tapping might not be as effective right?

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The LCD on your Visor is three layers of glass with a thin layer of soft plastic on top.

The bottom two layers are the the display itself. The liquid crystals are between them.

The top layer is the digitizer. It is essentially a stiff, transparent underlayer with the material to actually sense input above it.

The m125 just replaces the digitizer underlayer with plastic. For a screen this small it should be plenty stiff. It is also lighter and much less brittle.

Typically when you break a screen, it is one of two types. If you just see cracks but no discoloration, you broke the digitizer. If you see nasty dark smears, you broke the displays and are leaking liquid crystals.

The plastic digitizer almost completely eliminates the first type of failure and provides some protection against the second type.

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The found the m100 screen to be well-nigh unbearable. I can't say for sure what it was except that subjectively, it bit my rear. It was too small and the contrast was poor.

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I get a kick out of all the screen size comments.

It is larger than the screen that HS has put in the Treo.

The contrast on mine looks better than the contrast on my Deluxe. About the same as the Plat. Different background color, but about the same apparent contrast.

Still, it is definitely smaller.

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quote:
Originally posted by bradhaak
It is larger than the screen that HS has put in the Treo.

yeah, I know... oh well..

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The contrast on mine looks better than the contrast on my Deluxe. About the same as the Plat. Different background color, but about the same apparent contrast.

Sorry, I should have been more specfic. I meant that the contrast bewt. the background and the black was bad... the different background color equates to poorer contrast, IMO. At any rate, I found it harder to read than the Plat/Vdx

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quote:
Originally posted by bradhaak
[B]It is larger than the screen that HS has put in the Treo.
[B]


Actually, (I hope I'm right here), but I think htat the Treo either is the same size or as a slightly larger screen. ALSO, the treo's main apps were redesinged to work better on such a small screen, but still be made readable.. (increaseing the size of font was one thing)

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Wouldn't a plastic screen scratch more easily?

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quote:
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Wouldn't a plastic screen scratch more easily?

All PDA touch screens have a plastic layer on top. This is the actual digitizer. The layer that we are talking about on the m125 (and m100 and m105) is the layer underneath that supports the digitizer.

So the answer is no.

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Originally posted by miradu2000
Actually, (I hope I'm right here), but I think htat the Treo either is the same size or as a slightly larger screen. ALSO, the treo's main apps were redesinged to work better on such a small screen, but still be made readable.. (increaseing the size of font was one thing)

first the wordsmith-stowaway thing, now this...

Miradu: you should write an artice: inside information I learned at Comdex.

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Miradu - Actually, I was wrong. I just measured photos of the Treo and the m100, and scaled the measurements based on the published dimensions of the units and got exactly the same size for the m125 and Treo. My measurements matched to .005 inch.

However, I got to play with a Treo at a user group meeting and looked at the photos on HandSprings website, and read all of the information that they have published and I have not seen anything that says the the apps have been optimized for a smaller screen. The look the same and there is no mention of changes that I could find. There have been fairly significant enhancements to integrate them with the phone capabilities, but this has nothing to do with screen size optimizations.

Point me to where you have seen this online. I am very interested. I still think that Treo is a waste of money, but I will probably need to support it at some point.

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