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LMidnight
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After much frustration with trying to connect my Samsung/Sprint phone to my VDX, I gave in and switched to Voicestream GSM. I now have a A Nokia 8290 with an IR port and am using IRLink to communicate with my VDX. Be sure to read the entire PDF file contained with the IRLink documentation if you go this route. There is a special section devoted to the Visor. I also needed to install part of the Palm Enhanced Infrared Update.

The IR connection seems fairly stable, so far. I've only had problems with Eudora Internet Suite. AvantGo, 4thPass WAP browser and TGP work wonderfully. The 8290 is small enough to fit next to the Visor and if I don't want to lug around a visor/phone combo, I can take just one or the other.

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maxwen
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Frustrating experiences with Visor 8210 and IrLink

Hi,

I just read your posting and I am wondering if my ( frustrating :-) ) problems are the same.

You mentioned problems with Eudora Internet Suite.
I tried the Eudora mail tool and experienced the following.

Connecting to the ISP works but when data transfer starts the IR icon begins blinking and short after that the connection gets lost.

Do you have the same experiences?

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The IR connection seems fairly stable, so far. I've only had problems with Eudora Internet Suite.
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corb
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something i don't understand so far is why there is so much concern about the wiring together of the cell phones and the visor ('rmapes' stlye when you can use an IR enabled phone.

my questions i guess are:
1. with an IR phone, do you just point the visor beam at the phone beam dial up the ISP on the cell and leave them sitting together until you're done?
2. if so, that seems easier than the wiring method. is it as good a connection? or is it more expensive to get an IR phone? i don't know a lot about cell phones, so i'm wondering.

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matty
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Originally posted by corb
something i don't understand so far is why there is so much concern about the wiring together of the cell phones and the visor ('rmapes' stlye when you can use an IR enabled phone.

my questions i guess are:
1. with an IR phone, do you just point the visor beam at the phone beam dial up the ISP on the cell and leave them sitting together until you're done?
2. if so, that seems easier than the wiring method. is it as good a connection? or is it more expensive to get an IR phone? i don't know a lot about cell phones, so i'm wondering.



i've been researching the very same thing... and the way i understand it, for your visor to be wireless, you've got 4 options:

  • visorphone
  • minstrel, etc.
  • cell phone with wire connection ala rmapes and co... (soon to be replaced by the xircom springboard and/or sixpak cell modem)
  • ir enabled cell phone


the visorphone seems the most comprehensive: designed to work with the visor, it should offer no problems.

the minstrel option doesn't allow voice calls, and seems to require a specially sheilded visor, and stuff...

the rmapes style phone + cable + rs232 thing sure seems like a lot of stuff to lug around, plus it seems spotty at best.

the ir phone option seems pretty good, but so far as i can see, in the states, we've only got 2 options for ir phones: the above nokia 8290 (gsm networks only) and a motorola timeport, i can't remember which model, there's a thread around here somewhere discusing it. there are a ton of ir phones accross the pond, but here, they're tough to get your hands on.

so... i want either the visorphone or the ir phone, which would be fine, cuz i live in a gsm covered neighborhood, but i travel enough to places that aren't covered that i need the thing to be dual mode for roaming (which is too damn expensive in my humble opinion) and i don't think the nokia is (is it?) and i'm not sure on the vphone... maybe the timeport is cdma... i'll repost when i find out.

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LarryN
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quote:
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...in the states, we've only got 2 options for ir phones: the above nokia 8290 (gsm networks only) and a motorola timeport, i can't remember which model


Hi Matty... I have a Motorola Timeport 8167. I think you might have to rule out the Timeport as well for ir. I'm not sure about international Timeports, but in the US, I don't believe any Timeports have an ir port. It is compatable with the rs232 connection though, which I use quite frequently and it works consistantly enough.

I wish it did have an ir port though... I still haven't cannibalized a travel hotsync cord and a phone car charger cord to make a short connector like others have done.

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I'm not sure about international Timeports, but in the US, I don't believe any Timeports have an ir port[/B]


Ok, I stand corrected (by myself) It seems that flip phone sytle timeports do not have ir ports, but some non-flip timeports do have ir ports. Ooopppsss.

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yup. there's also an ericsson with ir, one of the w models. what do they all have in common? GSM

so, my travelling will either be really expensive (tho' at home i'll be happy with no wires and from what i understand, pretty good service) or i'll be without a phone till the xircom module or the sixpak happen. and i'm not holding my breath.

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with the visorphone being gsm too, the coverage for that might be spotty also. the cdma airprime or whatever it's called appeals to me, but how long the wait??

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Corb, The wait was a major factor for me, too. I was at a point where I was fed-up with Sprint customer service, I wanted a new phone, and I wanted to make my vdx wireless. The logical answer was the 8290 with Voicestream. No more waiting. I agree with the benefits of the other options, but this best suits me, now.

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MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by corb
something i don't understand so far is why there is so much concern about the wiring together of the cell phones and the visor ('rmapes' stlye when you can use an IR enabled phone.


Well, in my case, I had the phone and service... no extra $$$ for OmniSky, YadaYada, etc. The only extra I have to lug around is a cable (small enough to fit in my pocket). Granted, I can't do voice and data at the same time but I have the ability for both everywhere SprintPCS offers service. And, surprisingly, it works very, very well.

I'm not sure about the SpringPort and SixPak cell connection. Currently, the SpringPort only works with select GSM (3 models currently available) phones and the connection cable is $129.00. I believe the SixPak will be similar. This option is, in my opinion, no different than what I'm doing with my Visor/StarTAC combo.

The wireless modules have their benefits, I'm sure. However, for me, I cannot justify the additional monthly expense of those plans. If I were more of a road warrior, I might feel differently but they are too pricey for someone like me. Give me a wireless module that could be used in conjunction with my current SprintPCS plan and I'd probably jump at it (if for no other reason than to have another toy ).

As for IR, I personally think surfing with two handheld devices has to be difficult... what happens if the IR link is broken? It might be ok for quick email retrieval but for anything more than a couple of minutes, I've got to wonder about it. With my wired connection, I don't have to worry about keeping 2 devices aimed at each other. To me, this is a big plus for the wired or module options.

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cancer623
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8290 as a wireless modem with Palm m100?

Hi,

I read your post about how you were able to connect your 8290 with your Visor to use as a wireless modem. I was hoping that you could help me figure out how to use my 8290 as a wireless modem with my Palm m100? ANY ideas???

Thanks! If anyone has any ideas or suggestions please email me at [email protected].

~~Kyle

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cancer623, You may want to check out this thread. It has a link and hints from users with similar hardware. I'm not sure which OS the m100 uses, but if it's 3.5 you may not need any additional software. Good luck

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