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Why did this not get bumped to the top when I posted? Am I here. Can anyone hear me?

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Originally posted by Toby
Which beers are those? Any beer that tastes like paper-pulp is bad (stale). That's oxidization at work. Either the brewer's not very good, or somebody's mishandling his beer.

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Originally posted by K. Cannon
Or, someone (me) is being overly-dramatic with their descriptive terms...

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Perhaps you were being overdramatic, but that _is_ a definite taste/smell sensation associated with oxidation. It means that either the beer is old or wasn't handled properly on its trip into the container.

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Or drink at a dark-hole-in-the-wall bar with sliding coolers with no florescent lights.

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You think they load the coolers at night with no lights on? The only bar owners I know that do that tend to consume too much of their own product.

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I know you might not agree, but a cold Corona Light with a lime on a screened in porch on the beach or low-country canal, especially near the beginning of one's vacation, is hard to beat.

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*shrug* I have a Corona with lime on occasion myself, but only under the right circumstances.

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I thought it was the beech-wood that gave it that smell.

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Nah, they don't want any wood taste getting into the beer, so they leech _everything_ out of it before it's introduced into the beer. The beechwood is just to provide surface area for the yeast to work with to condense the time it takes to remove most lager yeast characteristics (lager yeast is named after the process normally required to age it and remove some less than pleasant aspects of lager yeast).

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"Mapquest sucks. I suspect they get their funding from oil corporations. I shaved off 3 hours taking a look at a map for the return trip. "

People routinely get off of 90 near where I live expecting to be headed for Boston (instead they're headed for NYC) because of Mapquest. I suspect you're on to something- perhaps the funding is a joint effort involving tire manufacturers also.

"Ceramic knives. Believe the hype? "

What hype? Are they supposed to taste better? Prevent cavities? Guard against gingivitis?

"Anyone know how to make little green apples?"

It is best to start with an apple tree. Let it grow up. When it begins to bear fruit, pick the fruit before it ripens. Abracadabra-presto chango-alaczam- little green apples!


NEWS FLASH!!

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"I feel like the very act of buying a car can bring out the worst parts of peoples personalities. While I met some truly nice people (on both sides) I'm tired of the way I feel at the end of the day."
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Originally posted by BobbyMike
BobbyMike, Aka Michael Walters, decides enough is enough- says goodbye to car sales...He plans to split his time between online sales of his companies antique millinery supplies, cabinet making, homeschooling his three boys, developing computer games, and supporting his churches mission field.

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Originally posted by Toby
Perhaps you were being overdramatic, but that _is_ a definite taste/smell sensation associated with oxidation.

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Originally posted by K. Cannon
Rats...I thought I had made up a good descriptive term.

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Originally posted by BobbyMike
People routinely get off of 90 near where I live expecting to be headed for Boston (instead they're headed for NYC) because of Mapquest. I suspect you're on to something- perhaps the funding is a joint effort involving tire manufacturers also.

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Originally posted by dick-richardson
Rarely, if ever, are they supposed to need sharpening. Depending on the ceramic, they're supposed to be just shy of diamonds WRT hardness.

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But don't drop a ceramic knife on a hard floor. I've heard they shatter!

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Originally posted by BobbyMike
"Anyone know how to make little green apples?"

It is best to start with an apple tree. Let it grow up. When it begins to bear fruit, pick the fruit before it ripens. Abracadabra-presto chango-alaczam- little green apples!

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Sure as God made little green apples... So another route to making them is to become God.

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Originally posted by PDAENVY
But don't drop a ceramic knife on a hard floor. I've heard they shatter! Sure as God made little green apples... So another route to making them is to become God.

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Originally posted by dick-richardson
Actually, God didn't make little green apples.

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Originally posted by Toby
So she doesn't love you?

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. . . (about beer, again) . . .
New Castle Brown Ale is my beer of choice, when I have a choice.
It is really good. I recommend trying, at least to try it.

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Originally posted by Toby
Sorry...
http://www.realbeer.co.nz/library/a...4cardboard.html
http://www.sallys-place.com/beverag...ating_beers.htm

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Originally posted by K. Cannon
In fairness to me, those sites refer to "cardboard" and "wet cardboard." My description "paper pulp" is mine and mine alone...mwahhh haha.

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Originally posted by Toby
All of the sources I have that refer to wet paper pulp and wet cardboard as synonymous oxidation defects are real world sources (books by Dave Miller or Charlie Papazian). Those were just handy.

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Oh well...guess I'll have to go cry in my bland, too-cold, American beer!!

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Originally posted by K. Cannon
Oh well...guess I'll have to go cry in my bland,

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Yes, it is bland.

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too-cold,

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Here, you're wrong. NAILs (North American Industrial Lagers) are served too cold for most real beer styles (real ales are made for cellar temp, i.e. ~55F; lagers can go a bit lower for serving). I think they're served at exactly the right temp, though. Have you ever _tried_ any of those things at warmer temps?

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American beer!!

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It should also be noted that not all American beer is bland (I really miss Louisiana Brewing R.I.P.).

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Originally posted by Toby
Yes, it is bland.[B]

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Originally posted by K. Cannon
I have no doubt that you know a heck of a lot more than I (and probably more than most people for that matter) regarding the brewing and beer making process. But, if I like the taste of American beer better than I like the taste of *insert fancy beer name here*, why am I wrong?

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Originally posted by Toby
huh? I think you misunderstand me. I didn't say you were wrong for liking it. I said you were wrong that it was served too cold.

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