Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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For some reason, when I am on Visorcentral.com, my cursor no longer switches to the "pointed finger" when I mouse-over a link. This is a minor thing, but it really bugs me. Is it your new Style Sheets?

Using IE5/Mac, BTW.

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Registered: Oct 2000
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I noticed the same thing but figured the pointed finger cursor was just my imagination from other web pages. It's good to hear I'm not a raving lunatic yet.

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Mine still works in Netscape 4.73. One thing I have noticed though is a slowdown of the bb. Seems to be due to images not loading, because when I click stop all of the text appears.

EDIT: I just opened up IE 5 and I see the same cursor problem.

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Windows IE5 isn't losing the cursor on me. Maybe it's a Mac thing?

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Just want to support the visorcentral staff and say that the cursor is working on all three machines that I have. Perhaps it's a certain build of IE. I would try downloading the newest versions (they come out with new versions and patches all the time), and seeing if that works.

BEN

Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Yes. It is a Mac thing. Please fix it if you can, though.

I think it is your style sheets:

BODY {CURSOR: default; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px}
UL {CURSOR: default; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px}
LI {CURSOR: default; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px}
P {CURSOR: default; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px}

I don't think you need the CURSOR attribute. If you must use it, I believe you need to add the CURSOR attribute to the A: tags as well to indicate a change state.

IE5 on the Mac is much pickier about Style sheets. At this time is the most standards-compliant browser out there...which makes it great if you are using style sheets...but it isn't very forgiving of discrepancies.

Also, if you are going to change those as well, may I suggest adding the font Geneva after Verdana? Geneva is much more readable on a Mac than Arial, and PC users would automatically default to Arial anyways.

Also, another minor suggestion. When you are viewing the RECENT TOPICS page, the THREAD TITLE column is very narrow. All of the subjects end up being squished into three or four lines which makes it a bit tough to quickly scan through them.

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Us Mac user can be such a pain!

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Registered: May 2000
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Yes, Yes, You can, but what has the best interface? MAC! What has the coolest hardware? MAC! you see. you just demand more from your computers..

P.S It works fine on my windows box

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Registered: Jan 2000
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OK...the cursor thing piqued my interest, so I did some research:

http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/csstut10.htm

The problem is that you have defined a cursor attribute of DEFAULT to your Body and TD tags, but not to your link tags. I think the default link cursor attribute SHOULD overide the body styles, but apparently, in IE5 on the Mac, it is truly adhering to the cascading concept and using the already defined DEFAULT cursor attribute in the links as well (since an attribute wasn't defined in the LINK style declarations, it isn't going to overide previous declarations).

Actually, there is absolutely no reason to have the CURSOR:default attribute even in your Style Sheet declarations...I'd just get rid of it.

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Any word on the missing cursor? (I know...I'm whining...but I miss my pointy finger!)

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>> don't think you need the CURSOR attribute.

Removed

>>Also, if you are going to change those as well, may I suggest adding the font Geneva after Verdana.

Done.

>> When you are viewing the RECENT TOPICS page, the THREAD TITLE column is very narrow.

Fixed.

Keep the suggestions coming!

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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Marcus...you the man!

I have my pointy finger back!

Seriously, thanks for doing all of that. Design is in the details and you guys certainly seem intent on making those details as good as possible.

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