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Fat_Man
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Smile One use for the CF modules

I guess the Matchbook or Innopocket CF modules will be perfect here. You can take pictures with the EM2 then transfer the photos to the CF card.

Didn't I read from the interview with Innogear that their innodrive MS module would allow direct access to images stored in memory stick? That would be great. Despite all the bashing Innogear is taking, I believe that they will delivery the Innodrive modules. Will I can hope...

[Edited by Fat_Man on 02-12-2001 at 03:19 PM]

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http://www.eyemodule.com/purchase/purchase.asp


look here for the eyemodule1 rebate


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Post Eyemodule2 limitations

I just noticed a couple of things from the comparison chart on the eyemodule web site. The first is that there is no zoom view on the handheld for eyemod2, and the second is that the higher resolution of eyemod2 is only for color photos; in fact, if you want to take B&W photos (e.g. to save precious memory on your visor), the eyemod1 gives you the greatest resolution! (320x240 vs. 640x480) Seems a bit strange that you can't take higher resolution B&W photos, doesn't it?

http://www.eyemodule.com/products/guide.asp

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movies?

Is anyone else having problems viewing the movies from the gallery? Is there a program I need to download in order to view them?

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Hmm.. If they're stored as JPGs, then they might just be saved as individual files. That would be great...

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quote:
Originally posted by xavier57
http://www.eyemodule.com/purchase/purchase.asp


look here for the eyemodule1 rebate


Arnold



Big deal. It only applies if you bought an EM1 in Feb 2001. Unless you were living under a rock, by Feb 1 you had seen rumors about the EM2 and wouldn't have buoght an EM1 anyway!

Thanks for the link, though.

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Re: movies?

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Is anyone else having problems viewing the movies from the gallery? Is there a program I need to download in order to view them?


Either they don't work for me or I'm too impatient, and I have a decent pipe.

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Re: movies?

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Originally posted by maddog
Is anyone else having problems viewing the movies from the gallery? Is there a program I need to download in order to view them?


I *think* all you need is the QuickTime plugin from Apple. I have version 2.0.1, and it works fine, even behind a firewall.

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Eyemodule 1 vs. Eyemodule 2

Interesting note on the Eyemodule 1 / Rebate deal. If you purchase your Eyemodule through Staples Online, you can add a $30 discount on a $150 purchase (see http://www.techbargains.com), bringing the price to $120. Then you can rebate an additional $50 bringing the price of the EM1 to $70! When you compare EM1 @ $70 vs. EM2 @ $200, the prices seem reasonable.

For me personally, the EM1 just never had the resolution I wanted. However, I think that the EM2 has something going for it. I really like the quality of the pictures that they have in the gallery, and it seems like it could be a very useful module. I might buy this one ;-)

Just one additional note: I just checked and Staples has $40 off a $200 purchase. This brings the price of the eyemodule 2 down to $160, which is a great deal. They don't have them in stock yet, but they sell the EM1 and presumably will have the EM2 shortly. For the $40 off use Order Code: 91216; it Expires: Mar 15.

[Edited by Brianp on 02-12-2001 at 04:52 PM]

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Anywhere else selling the EM 2

If anyone hears of retailers selling the EM 2 please post them here. I'm interested but would like to use amazon or other rebate programs. WOW, 8 meg of internal visor memory is starting to look really puney now, with the eyemodule 2. The VGA pictures and video will eat your spare memory in a hurry. ....hold that pose while I offload some programs and files into my CF module !

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hmmmm

Having a matchbook drive would definitely be a plus with the eyemodule 2... and it could be argued that it's better to keep the expanded storage and camera modules separate, so that we don't run into the same problem as Vaporgear's MiniJam long-promised, never-delivered functionality for storing e-books, etc. on their proprietary-formatted MMC cards.

I find myself having the same knee-jerk reaction as I did when the first eyemodule was released; $199 seems like an awful lot for a cam that only does 640x480 without a flash. But, I eventually bought an eyemodule 1 and it spends most of its time in the springboard slot, so it probably won't be long before I'm lusting for the new one. Time to check what the going price of Eyemodule 1's are on e-bay... I'd probably trade up to an eyemodule 2 if I can get enough for my current one.

As for flash, I'm wondering how hard it would be to rig something up that would activate an external flash whenever you pushed the eyemodule shutter button... not terribly compact, but an interesting idea.

In any event, I would also like to see some low-light examples from the eyemodule 2; does it pepper the image with white static pixels like the em 1? How light-sensitive is the unit overall compared to the original? The focus definitely looks better. Hopefully we'll get to see some non-Blocks Products images on eyebrowse when the unit goes on sale.

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Re: hmmmm

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In any event, I would also like to see some low-light examples from the eyemodule 2; does it pepper the image with white static pixels like the em 1? How light-sensitive is the unit overall compared to the original? The focus definitely looks better. Hopefully we'll get to see some non-Blocks Products images on eyebrowse when the unit goes on sale.


Exactly what I was thinking. I'd rather see an improvement here instead of in resolution.

I'd also like to know if the eyedrop and eyemodule app improvements are going to be made available to the em1 users...

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no FLASH?!
no ZOOM?!
no MEMORY?!

don't these people read visorcentral???

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EM 1 software upgrade?

Ok, I have an EM 1, and some have said that the EM 2 stores pics as JPEGS which use less room than the standard on the EM1. My question is:

Can Ideo make a patch for the EM1 that will allow us old custies to save our lower res color pics in a more memory-friendly way? This would add value to the EM1 and justify what is still a steep price even with a discount for a 320-240 res camera and prolong the shelf life a bit. Then I would be happy to buy a EM3 in say a year that has built -in storage for even $300 if it still had a small form factor. The EM2 @$200 is getting awfully close to a nice 1.3 megapixel Olympus for $300, which would be my choice if I upgrade right now. I have my EM1 for that unplanned photo already, the EM2 doesn't really fill the gap between a polaroid and an SLR in my opinion.

Please don't neglect your customer base, Ideo, or you may find it eroding away.

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Anybody knows which one has better resolution, PalmPix or EM2?

Thanks

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quote:
Originally posted by corb
no FLASH?!
no ZOOM?!
no MEMORY?!
don't these people read visorcentral???



I'm sure they do, as they've incorporated almost all of the features I've asked for -- esp. video!
Thanks IDEO, it's obvious you haven't been goofing off for the past yr. (it's even LESS than 1 yr. after EM1, no?)
(Yeah, the video's short, "mini," memory-hogging -- but it's there! Even 15 sec. of Rodney King's beating would likely have resulted in the same 4.5M verdict for him [was that the sum?] & revealing the LAPD for what they are for the rest of us.)
C'mon, folks, I share your mini-gripes & concerns & "unfulfilled wishes" -- but this thing is a slam-dunk. It'll fuel sales of the Prism like nobody's biz., raise their stock (buy some NOW!) -- esp. w/the PwrPt Presentations Viewer, also announced today; and I only wish I could buy some IDEO stock (they're not publicly-held, are they?).
Even most PktPC models CAN'T do pix OR video ... CAN YOUR PKT PC DO THAT? I DON'T THINK SO!



P.S. I think PalmPix has the same res. as EM2 -- but no video!

I think the CCD has greater low-light capacity now, so a flash should be less-needed.

Folks, it's not perfect (and I think some of you know I'm more than willing to criticize a co. that's been goofing off on the job) ... but, what is it? 90% there?
Let's be thankful for what we've got.

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on board memory

I really thought I would be purchasing an EM2, what no onboard memory, OH well I guess it is an EM3 for me- morons and they still want $200 for it.

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Unhappy Trade-In or EM3, Their Choice

I bought the EM and have been quite pleased, given my expectations of it being a rather expensive toy. I was unaware of the EM2 or the rebate program that started a day after I bought it online from Staples (saved $25 with that, and it looks like my $50 rebate request is going through anyway - crossing fingers & toes - for about half off!) So, at this point, I'll settle with the toy until Ideo/Blocks comes up with a trade-in program or comes out with an onboard-memory-expandable, natively uploadable and e-mailable (why pay $15 for what should be included, like eyecontact is?) EM3. Are you lurking, nice developer-people?

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I've got all sorts of other ways to get images onto my PC (scanner, webcam, dedicated digital camera), so having pictures larger that the Visor's screen resolution is kind of a waste to me. The only time people ask to see my eyemodule pictures is when I'm nowhere near my PC, but always with my Visor. Unless an eyemodule can REPLACE my dedicated 2 megapixel digital camera, I don't need the extra resolution. Keep upping the pixels, IDEO.

The tilted lens will be a good improvement if you've ever seriously tried taking someone's portrait with EM1's straight ahead lens. A pivoting lens would have been a GREAT improvement. Looking straight back at you, the preview mode would have been a great way to make sure your hair was combed and there was no corn in your teeth.

Is it still a fixed-focus lens? If they'd added a focus ring, or even a 2 or 3 postition focus switch (near or macro, normal, distant) I'd have bought one in a flash. I want to take (very)CLOSEUPS.

Zoom, anyone?

If it's a CCD instead of the EM1's CMOS, it "might" provide better low light images. I'll believe it when I see them, though. My Sony camera takes movies in NO LIGHT (0 lux), but they aren't worth watching. A flash, or even the ability to add a flash should have been a feature. I remember old cameras that had flash cubes you'd mount on top. The cubes were cheap, and you could take 4 flash pictures with each before throwing them out. How about bring back that technology, maybe? No batteries required. They were explosive flashes, I think.

Where's the tripod mount I asked for? I'd love to take time-lapse pictures, then make a mini-movie out of them. I just don't want to have to hold my visor in the same position all that time. A tripod mount, near the low end of the module, would have been easy. The circuit board could have simply wrapped around it. An offset mount could have been included to allow you to actually mount your tripod beneath the visor's perfect center of gravity. I made one (an offset mount)for my poorly balanced Sony camera for about 15 cents. Easy.

What they did right? Kept it pocketable. Tilted the lens (at least a little). Switched to CCD. Put more useful software right on the module.

Could it have been better? You bet.

What else would be nice to do with your EM1 or EM2? How about an LCD picture frame that has a springboard slot on the back. If the EMs had on-module memory where pictures were stored, then slipping the camera into such a picture frame could start a slide show of the images you'd captured. I'd want one!

How about Video-out? 640x480 is great resolution to view on a TV. Even 320x240 looks good. That's what VideoCD resolution is. Better yet, include a Visor cradle with TV out. Set atop your TV, the visor might pass video thru it's sync buss. Just park your Visor/EM in this cradle, and watch your EM pictures on TV. While they're at it, an IR remote control would have been great too. Both for TAKING pictures remotely, and viewing them on TV remotely. Though the Visor's IR port has limited sending range, it can "see" IR commands sent from stronger remotes. The "Presenter-to-Go" folks think so, at least.

IDEO... You can have all these ideas. Just send me an EM3 that encorporates them in exchange. Deal?

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Exclamation Eyemodule Resolution

Do not believe the "higher resolution" claims on the EyeModule.

From what the www.eyemodule.com site is showing on their sample images, the resolution of the images has not changed. The images are still only a 72dpi resolution.

The image size has increased, but the resolution is still the same. If you are thinking that the resolution of the images taken by an EyeModule are anywhere near a digital camera, you are mistaken.

(Just a note from a user who would *love* a true high-resolution version of the EyeModule!)

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