Registered: Nov 2000
Location: New Jersey
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So no sooner is the m50X series announced than Kodak shows up with this:



Yes, folks, it's the PalmPix for the m50X. Not as elegant as the eyeModule2, but it does have 2 important differences:

1) captures images at 800X600 as JPEGs.
2) can store images to internal memory OR SD slot.

Come on, Kodak. I see no reason why you can't come up with a VisorPix Springboard. (Plus, a little competition might bring better features to the eM3.)

Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Alive and well on VisorCentral.com
Posts: 861

I have an Olympus digital camera and a memplug, I have the best solution for taking pictures on my Visor (well, for me anyway)..

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Registered: Mar 2000
Location: NJ
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Do they have some kind of deal with Palm? I don't want to spread conspiracy theories here, but Kodak keeps making Palm products and seems to be neglecting the obvious SpringBoard interface. I think the SB would be a much better connector than the serial port.

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Maybe they're having trouble making their camera fit the small form factor required by a Springboard module.

Registered: Dec 2000
Location: NJ,US
Posts: 94

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Originally posted by wforde

Specially since they had to create a new version each
time palm change the serial port. I think there is
currently three versions (III, 10x, 50x). With the
SB they would have to worry about upward compatibility.
I guess they expected visor users to be a very small
part of the pda market.

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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: London
Posts: 8

...and it just costs $130, so says www.palminfocenter.com...

Ouch.

justin

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quote:

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Originally posted by lennonhead
I think the SB would be a much better connector than the serial port.

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Registered: May 2000
Location: St. Paul, MN
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I've thought this sence the original Palm Pix. What is so hard for ANY company that makes real digital cameras (sorry IDEO. .youi don't count!) to adopt one for the pringboard slot? KODAK ALREADY HAS THE SOFTWARE WRITTEN!!

It's not fair. the eye has been a good seller as I understand, and IF kodak made an affordable Visor one, IT would be sellign like hotcakes. What ki9nd of %$#@^%^ up agreement are you in?

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Registered: Sep 1999
Location: Pittsford,NY,USA
Posts: 223

I live in Rochester, NY (the home of Kodak) and worked for the Photo Giant at one time. Not that it makes me an expert on Kodak, but I think I understand their reasoning here. Palm has sold more units and Kodak has the market to themselves. They have become very conservative lately and are getting more careful about what new products they bring to the market.

One other note ... From what I understand Kodak is the one that is forcing Palm to standardize on the bottom edge connector. Palm has agreed to not change that connector for at least 2 years and Kodak agreed to create a version of the PalmPix camera for the M500 series. Personally I think Handspring, Sony and TRG should all adopt this new connector standard. It would make things a lot simpler for the consumer.

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emeyer...I disagree!

No way...I don't want something that connects to the Visor that uses the bottom port. It is large and bulky...and you can't take a quick image and then easily hold the Palm without removing it. If you hold it in your Palm...you touch the lens...and you can't set it down flat. Also...how do you take a picture with a timer...it doesn't look like it will stand up straight? Drastically changing the form factor...is backwords and stupid. Everyone is complaining that the current Visor and SB is bigger than the new Palm...adding this device is lame.

If you want a great digital camera...you don't currently buy a PDA based camera. What EricG does is the best solution. If you want a good digital camera that is easy to carry and work with...the Eye2 works great. There are hundreds of uses for it.

If you want GREAT images then you buy a 3+ megapixel camera (or you stick with 35mm film) and you can still use the Visor with the memory cards. I didn't get the Eye2 to take professional quality photos...I bought it to capture anything on a whim. The Kodak is a terrible design when it comes to that use or any possible industrial use. I can't imagine sticking it in my inner coat pocket...something I do every day with my Eye2.

just my $.02

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Responding to quote from Lennonhead

"Do they have some kind of deal with Palm? I don't want to spread conspiracy theories here, but Kodak keeps making Palm products and seems to be neglecting the obvious SpringBoard interface. "

Maybe Palm actually supports their developers -- Handspring will walk right over their dedicated developers and not think twice

Registered: May 2000
Location: St. Paul, MN
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hmm. I disagree. I am actually VERY surprised ,on how open HS to developers. MUCH better Than Palm.

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quote:

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Originally posted by miradu2000
hmm. I disagree. I am actually VERY surprised ,on how open HS to developers. MUCH better Than Palm.

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I have been told about some cold blooded moves that were far from supportive

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cold blooded, eh?

donjaun,

cold blooded? sounds juicy, please dish for the rest of us...

Registered: Nov 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 201

Anyway, isn't comparing HS to Palm in this case like comparing apples to oranges? Palm writes the software - Handspring only makes modifications to it. If HS were developing their own OS, I could understand the concerns, but we're only really talking about the base PalmOS with a few extra Handspring extensions, aren't we?

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Originally posted by agraham999
emeyer...I disagree!
No way...I don't want something that connects to the Visor that uses the bottom port. It is large and bulky...and you can't take a quick image and then easily hold the Palm without removing it. If you hold it in your Palm...you touch the lens...and you can't set it down flat. Also...how do you take a picture with a timer...it doesn't look like it will stand up straight? Drastically changing the form factor...is backwords and stupid. Everyone is complaining that the current Visor and SB is bigger than the new Palm...adding this device is lame. <snip>

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I assume the Kodak is as large as it is because of all the technology it contains...although that could change...

I am sure there will be an Eye3...

What I want to know...is can you fit the same quality, technology, and durability in a SD device? As thin at they must be...they must have some bulk on top to accomodate more technology...I mean how much can you contain on a chip? Sometimes you need resistors and capacitors...blah blah.

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