Registered: Nov 1999
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Originally posted by BrainMan:
I do not currently, nor will I in the future, ever use, purchase, manufacture, etc. any clear, nor polarised, thin film to protect my electronic instrument's screen. It is my intention to not infringe upon your patent, in any way whatsoever.

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Registered: May 2000
Location: Mesa, AZ USA
Posts: 213

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Originally posted by JVman:
Folks,
I just had to chime in.

From what I've read, Mr. Warman is defined by his patent and he uses it like a big stick to threaten everyone, and give himself legitimacy (enough to append "Inventor" to his name and have the balls to charge $750/hour despite his apparent lack of a higher education).

That being the case, the best way to deflate Mr. Warman's case, IMHO, is to initiate a motion to repeal his patent.

I'm not a lawyer, but I do recall seeing postings from some lawyers in this thread.

If I remember right, one posting said that no patent is beyond reproach and can be challenged.

What do you say guys?

This is the ULTIMATE BOYCOTT and could set a precedent to shoot down aspiring Microsoft Style Sheets and Amazon's One-click patent applicants out there.

Hey, this can even snowball to reform the whole Patent process, which everyone knows, just does not work in its current form.

Where do I sign?

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Registered: Sep 1999
Location: Valparaiso, IN
Posts: 146

It says in the above post that you spent hours researching a way to protect the screens. Duh! Put a freakin' piece of plastic of the screen.


I can't believe that you (incorrectly) put "Inventor" after your name. If that's all it takes, then I guess I'm one too since I figured out a clever way to attach one of my styli to a string so that I'd always have one handy. I'm going to patent that, and then ruthlessly badger and sue anyone who might also use such an obvious idea.


You are such a hypocrite. You come in here with your "virgin eyes" acting as if you're some kind of incredibly moral person, but then you proceed to brag about how you've gotten a perfectly legitimate company (EasyPeel) to concede to your wishes, even though you and I both know their product doesn't fall under your patent. You are not moral, you are a bully, a liar and a thief. You disgust every ounce of integrity in any of us.


Not only that, but you're an aweful business person. Look at your site. Compare it to any other site out there that is successful. See the differences? Then, look at the way owners of other companies deal with potential customers. Now look at the way you do. See the differences? You can't answer questions, you can't formulate a thought, you're conceited, condescending and a jerk.


Just like Steve Chrysostom, I've honored you with my attention long enough. I'm done here. I hope you remember though, what goes around comes around. You will reap what you sow, and when you do, we will all be standing here laughing.

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Registered: Jun 2000
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Pardon me, to begin with, did this guy patent a square piece of saran wrap for all intents and purposes?

And secondly, dosent prior use invalidate bogus patents? (Bogus in the stupid sense, not bogus in the legal sense, Mr. Inventor.)

By the way, thanks for the suggestions on homebrew protectors.

Registered: Nov 1999
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JVman, Ryan, and others: I'm in. Where do I sign? How can I help?

Mike

Registered: Apr 2000
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 198

Jvman, I'm in on the patent repeal petition. Let me know how I can help.

Warman, what you don't seem to understand is: You've pissed off a lot of people. Important people. People who use Visors and Palms usually have good jobs. Lawyers, and people who work for lawyers, and other people who actually do something besides fish for a living.

If you're not careful, one of those lawyers or people who work for lawyers is going to contact Easy Peel or someone else you have been bullying and badgering, and they are going to offer their services pro bono. Then, you'll end up with a civil harassment lawsuit that you'll have to deal with that has little or nothing to do with you, your patent attorney, or your prescious patent, but it will have everything to do with you.

THAT is why I'm still here (even though I suggested on page 1 that we should all just find something else to do). I have wasted more than too much time on Warman. But there are people who have lost more than their temper because of him, and if more of us lose our tempers and help them out, maybe we can do something about this jerk.

Registered: May 2000
Location: Mesa, AZ USA
Posts: 213

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Originally posted by mchlwise:
Jvman, I'm in on the patent repeal petition. Let me know how I can help.

Warman, what you don't seem to understand is: You've pissed off a lot of people. Important people. People who use Visors and Palms usually have good jobs. Lawyers, and people who work for lawyers, and other people who actually do something besides fish for a living.

If you're not careful, one of those lawyers or people who work for lawyers is going to contact Easy Peel or someone else you have been bullying and badgering, and they are going to offer their services pro bono. Then, you'll end up with a civil harassment lawsuit that you'll have to deal with that has little or nothing to do with you, your patent attorney, or your prescious patent, but it will have everything to do with you.

THAT is why I'm still here (even though I suggested on page 1 that we should all just find something else to do). I have wasted more than too much time on Warman. But there are people who have lost more than their temper because of him, and if more of us lose our tempers and help them out, maybe we can do something about this jerk.

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Registered: Jun 2000
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Posts: 3

Oh yes, correct, your right to enforce your patent laws is covered(most of it) in the constitution. ALong the same lines, following someone down the street and yelling BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD in their ear is covered under the first amendment. (I would actually agree that it is, really). But when the person turns around and smacks them one to make them go away, no sane member of society is going to prosecute them, even though that is technically assault. There is a time to ignore laws. Anyone who has never jaywalked or gone one mile per hour above the speed limit at any time can disagree with me on this last point.

Registered: Jun 2000
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I am becoming incredibly curious about this Donald J. Lisa. How does he stand it? His client, I mean. The money can't be THAT great!

I checked the White Pages and he seems to live in a much better neighborhood than Mr. Warman, though...

bandersnatch

PS. Found a great quote:
"I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man"-Oscar Wilde

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Registered: Mar 2000
Location: Hermosa Beach, CA
Posts: 222

Mr. Warman, in your second to last post, why in the world are you talking about yourself in the third person?!?

As for appealing Mr. Warman's patent, Nhatman is in also.

And if for anyone interested in buying screen protectors, Nhatman suggests that you try EasyPeel. Just as for a custom size but don't mention what you will be using it for. Problem solved.

PS - Nhatman thinks that comment about V.S.Protective Shields (TM) being one letter away from being a contraceptive is funny! Nhatman is laughing.

Registered: Nov 1999
Location: bright side of the moon.
Posts: 996

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Originally posted by Nhatman:
Mr. Warman, in your second to last post, why in the world are you talking about yourself in the third person?!?

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Registered: Nov 1999
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 195

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Originally posted by Hoser_in_USA:
i'm guessing he's quoting something...but he didn't reference the quote. hmmm....i won't go there.

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IT'S THE IMPOSTER!!

Registered: Oct 1999
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A wise old Canadian once told me, "Doug, don't argue with an idiot, eh? He'll only bring you down to his level and then overwhelm you with his experience."

Hey...do US patent laws hold true outside of the USA? There's a whole market up here just waiting to be screwed up the backside if that isn't the case...

-InventorD, eh...

Registered: Jun 2000
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Originally posted by Doug:

Hey...do US patent laws hold true outside of the USA? There's a whole market up here just waiting to be screwed up the backside if that isn't the case...

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Registered: Jun 2000
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(whoops! messed up a posting, and couldn't delete it)

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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1683

The discussion is at the point where it is really necessary to have the expertise of an actual patent lawyer.

My understanding is that most international patents are protected by other companies to varying degrees with obvious excepetions like China.

As for Warman's comments about his right to protect his patent...he is right, he can do that legally. But he also can certainly be sued for harrasement regardless of his patent ownership. It is clear that his attacks on Easy Peal are unfounded, both morally and legally. Unfortunately, it takes a court of law to make that so.

It's also quite apparent that it doesn't take a whole lot to actually refute his patent as Concept Kitchen clearly is not worried in the least about this person.

As for repealing a patent, one would most likely need to contact that patent office to find out the proper procedure in doing so.

I'm in if that happens!

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Miami, Fl
Posts: 2

Hello everyone.

I have developed a new method/device for the protection of LCD screens and the like. It is completely transparent and is not visible under normal operating conditions. The invention consists of a proprietary gas phase substance that is employed simply by placing it between the screen and any foreign object. By making sure that the GASSP (GaseousPhase Anti Scratch Screen Protector) always remains between the LCD screen and any object that might potentially touch the screen, damage is easily avoided. The GASSP has the advantage over prior inventions that required the application of a plastic sheet to the screen surface in that it requires no adhesive, and can is thus not capable of harming the screen. In addition, it is crystal clear, and variable in thickness depending on the needs of the user. For example, a user could employ the GASSP at a desk by deciding to keep all objects 1 foot away from the screen at all times. Should the user fail to keep the GASSP between the screen and the foreign object however, scratches may result. The most common formulation for this screen protector consists of approximately 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and additional constituents that I will not be revealing until the patent s filed. Note that since this will cover ALL gas phase devices and that since it is not possible to create a true vaccuum, any attempt to circumvent this invention by devising a extremely low density gas phase screen protector will be pursed legally. You have been warned.

-Coyote

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: heh
Posts: 1

Heh.

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Registered: May 2000
Location: Sewell, NJ, US
Posts: 13

I can't think of a single reason why I would want to protect my Visor's screen from water spots, salt spray whatever. I don't take my Visor fishing.

I protect my screen by being careful about dust, etc. and keeping the screen clean. Kind of slippery though. My graffiti area has a nice, printed keyboard installed (Silkyboard) so I can't even see that part of my screen. Has a good feel when using a stylus.

I wish I could install a replacement writing surface on the upper portion of my screen that wasn't so slippery. Be real nice to have a replacement writing surface that felt more like writing on paper. I'll skip the screen protection though. Not going fishing today.

Registered: Jun 2000
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Originally posted by homer:

My understanding is that most international patents are protected by other companies to varying degrees with obvious excepetions like China.

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