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This subject should not be in the off topic area. This is directly on point. Just because you do not like the conversation does not mean it should go to the off topic area.

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Originally posted by Inventorb
This subject should not be in the off topic area. This is directly on point. Just because you do not like the conversation does not mean it should go to the off topic area.

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That's exactly where it will go (if it even stays open) if we don't stay on the original subject matter:

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Originally posted by ronaldjq
Does anyone have any alternative solutions to screen protectors?

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Claims of patent infringement and the like are NOT an alternative solution to screen protectors.

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Originally posted by Inventorb
We are talking about Screen Protectors. I'm not sure what you are reading. I am
documenting all the discussions. They are on point. No body is using the forbidden
words but your self.

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We will not discuss anyone's patent (or lack thereof) in this thread. Let's all do our best to stay focused.

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Mark, et al,

I, for one, hope the discussion goes somewhere! After listening to "he-who-shall-not-be-named" spout off for so long (remember how the FBI was said to be investigating fraudulent postings under his name on VisorCentral?! ) I think it's encouraging to see one of those he's attempting to intimidate force him to respond with some level of specificity. If he is interested in the "free market" then a free and open discussion of who really owns what product and how those products are brought into the marketplace is certainly of interest. I agree the thread isn't about screen protection anymore, it's about patent infringement, but that should be pretty interesting to watch! Be sure and let us know where this thread gets filed!

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Originally posted by Inventorb
We are talking about Screen Protectors. I'm not sure what you are reading. I am
documenting all the discussions. They are on point. No body is using the forbidden
words but your self.

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Forbidden words???

Mr. Warman, in case you didn't notice (and I apologize to everyone for having to say this), the folks at VisorCentral have entrusted me with the duties of being a discussion moderator. What this means is that I must ensure that topics remain focused, are posted (and continued) in the proper sections, and abide by the rules of this forum.

That said, this thread was started to seek alternative methods of screen protection... not to validate OR invalidate any person, company, or products. This is now the third time this evening I'm posting here, stressing that the discussion needs to stay focused on the original subject. I am not singling anyone out... the rules apply to everyone (myself included).

There are some forbidden words as far as this thread is concerned: patent, infringement, claim(s), etc. We will not discuss anyone's patent (or lack thereof) in this thread. Let's all do our best to stay focused.

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Warman writes "As long as I'm the expert regarding "Screen Protectors""...

I've only seen you post *one* message that had anything to do with screen protectors themselves... in any thread.

But hey, maybe you have hidden depths.

Tell us the difference between your protectors, PilotRites, and both kinds of WriteRights, NuSgields, and vinyl. Post an article comparing them, describing the advantages and disadvantages of each. Since you're the expert you should have no problem holding your legal and marketing issues in abeyance for one more message, and stick to technical matters. Surprise us all.

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Warman writes "As long as I'm the expert regarding "Screen Protectors""...

I've only seen you post *one* message that had anything to do with screen protectors themselves... in any thread.

But hey, maybe you have hidden depths.

Tell us the difference between your protectors, PilotRites, and both kinds of WriteRights, NuSgields, and vinyl. Post an article comparing them, describing the advantages and disadvantages of each. Since you're the expert you should have no problem holding your legal and marketing issues in abeyance for one more message, and stick to technical matters. Surprise us all.

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Originally posted by ronaldjq
Hi,

I'm looking for an alternative to the WriteRight screen protectors. I just don't like how those screen protectors make the screen dim and I can't seem to put the protector on without any bubbles.

In the interim, I have been cutting up a sticky note and placing it over the writing area and that seems to work pretty well. I thought that maybe I could use the same material that those Oil Change companies use to print their 'replace oil at...' stickers that they stick on your windshield. Those stickers stick on the windows without any adhesive which is another issue I have with the WriteRights. Whenever I replace one of those protectors, I can see my screen lift up slightly and I don't thing that that is very good for the screen.

Does anyone have any alternative solutions to screen protectors?

Thanks,
Ron

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The above quotation is the message that started this thread. It is clear to me that ronaldjq simply wanted to hear about alternatives to what he has been using. No where do I see him asking to hear about patents or infringement. As such, any further posts in this thread which are not relevant to screen protector alternatives will result in this thread being closed.

The exchange between InventorB and markr13 clearly moves outside the discussion area of this topic. The only reason I did not mention markr13 in my prior posts is simply that he already stated this was "off topic" and would not continue:

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Originally posted by markr13
This entire discussion is off-topic and does not belong here. I, for one, will not continue this and hope you do the same.

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Mr. Warman, you are free to discuss, in generic terms, any screen protector alternative that is pertinent to this discussion. If you wish to mention your patent, your long list of infringers, your VSPS product, or any other claims related to it, you must got to the Off Topic section and start a new thread (as was already pointed out to you by James).

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Originally posted by JHromadka
Look, we don't need to rehash all of the patent talk AGAIN. Bill, quit saying "Thank you" every time someone posts. If you want to talk about how great your product is, fine. Don't talk about the patent here. Make an Off Topic posting called "VSPS Patent" and talk about it to your heart's content.

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To everyone else, I reiterate that this discussion is for the subject of screen protector alternatives... nothing else. Please don't force my hand and make me use my moderator powers... at least not yet

You have ALL been warned!!!

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Warman says, "I'm not allowed to discuss one protector of an electronic device with another. The anti-trust laws prevent this conversation.".

Bill, you're making that up: vendors dicuss each other's products in public forums all the time. Either give us the benefit of your technical expertise, or refrain from posting at all.

Come on, technical details, why are your screen protectors better than NuShields, WriteRights (both kinds), or home made protectors made from vinyl, overhead transparencies, or laminating film? What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of the three technologies (adhesive, mechanical attachment, and hydrogen bonding)?

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Warman says, "I'm not allowed to discuss one protector of an electronic device with another. The anti-trust laws prevent this conversation.".

Bill, you're making that up: vendors dicuss each other's products in public forums all the time. Either give us the benefit of your technical expertise, or refrain from posting at all.

Come on, technical details, why are your screen protectors better than NuShields, WriteRights (both kinds), or home made protectors made from vinyl, overhead transparencies, or laminating film? What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of the three technologies (adhesive, mechanical attachment, and hydrogen bonding)?

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The time has come

Close topic. Not only has everything that could possibly be said on the Warman controversy been said, but this thread and previous ones on VC have a ton of information on screen protectors. If you don't want to make your own screen protector, get a commercial one or get an attorney.

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Bill, what this comes down to is that you have no idea what the difference between any of these screen protectors is. You have given no indications that you have the intelligence to invent a marketable product... rather, you have found a way to hack the patent system to let you claim a patent on a product invented... if it can be said to have been invented by anyone... by Concept Kitchen.

You don't know enough about the technology to know how vinyl sticks to the screen, or the difference between a screen protector held by mechanical action like NuShields with one that adheres to the screen itself.

If you were the inventor you claim to be you would have taken my questions as a golden opportunity to demonstrate you expertise. Instead you trotted out another fishing tale about the legal system.

Give it up, Bill, go hit the books yourself. Learn a bit about your own supposed invention. Then when you come back you won't look like such a fool.

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I agree with Gameboy .. this topic has been brought up way too much and doesn't lead anywhere.

If one does not exist, lets develop an article regarding screen protectors -- include why screen protetors exist, what types are out there, how to make your own, and possibly a listing of estimated price, where they could be purchased, etc... that way, when someone asks about screen protectors, they can be redirected to the article.

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Originally posted by Cerulean
this topic has been brought up way too much and doesn't lead anywhere

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