Registered: May 2000
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 194

Its in Japanese, so does anyone have a translation program?
http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/ProductsPa.../PEG/PEG-S500C/

It looks pretty sexy, if only i could read all that stuff.

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 109

Well, I tried finding a good Japanese-to-English website translation site, but failed. What's it matter, anyways, since most of the text is in graphics. Doesn't Sony know the many reason why text should be sparingly used in graphics on the web???

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Registered: Nov 1999
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Check this out!
http://www.world.sony.com/News/Press/200007/00-030/

Interesting quotes:

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Last November, Sony and Palm Inc. agreed to collaborate in the development of next generation Palm OSR software with rich AV functionality, and Sony's Palm-PoweredTM personal entertainment organizers are the first products to result from this collaborative effort.

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Registered: Oct 1999
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Here are the specs for the new Sony PDA:

PEG-S500C/PEG-S300
Palm OS(R) ver.3.5
CPU Dragonball EZi 20MHz
8MB(DRAM)/4MB(Flash)/8MB(MS)
USB
LCD 160/160 dots
256/16
70.9/114.7/15.2 mm
120g
AC
8MB CD-ROM

The Grayscale device will retail for $510, while the color version will go for $555.

I think the Pocket PC is going to pound this thing. It's too expensive, and you can actually buy Pocket PCs for much lower prices. There is no built in audio capabilties, and the display is still only 160x160 just like the Palm IIIc.

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: nowheresburg, PH
Posts: 98

They're releasing both models on september 9.

from its hardware page, it still has the same stuff as the regular Palm OS buttons except for the stick and the jog dial. One thing worth noting is that It also has a mobile communications adapter available for the unit.

On the top of the page, they are calling it a Personal Entertainment Organizer!


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Registered: Jan 2000
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I doubt if Japanese-English translation program will work without Japanese IME(MS program that correctly displays Japanese encoding). Here's a summary of what I read this page.
They call it Personal Entertainment Organizer(PEG).
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Hardware
1. Easy access to the internet-PEG will come with an adaptor & connection cable to cell phone.
2. Jog Dial will work with all soft that comes with PEG, a stylus is not necessary for most basic operations.
3. Memory Stick Slot(8MB Memory Stick included)-PEG can use Memory Stick for strage of different kinds of data. For example, it can read Memory Stick from your digital camera using "PictureGear Pocket" application, which comes with PEG.
4. PEG-S500C is the smallest color Plam OS machine(as of July 13).
5. Standard cradle is USB cradle. Compatible with Win98, Win 98 Second ed.,Win2000 professional. Serial cardle will be available & sold separate.

Software
1."Memory Stick Gate"-a file mover program. PEG will be able to handle 64MB memory maximum.
2."PictureGear Pocket"-image viewer program;can attach photo of a person to his/her address book entry.
3. (ATOK is a program for Japanese language entry)
4."g-Media" is a video viewer;will convert & display .AVI, MPEG1, QuickTime & other file format.
5."MultiMail" compatible(?they don't cleary say if it's included or not)-enable to send & receive e-mail via cell phone
6."Palmscape" internet browser included
7.Palm OS standard PIM
8.Graffiti
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They also started PEG's web page(http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/PEG/). There's not much in it yet, though.

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Registered: Oct 1999
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Originally posted by perze_a:
They're releasing both models on september 9.

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Registered: Oct 1999
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Taki, I got these specs from Palmstation.com


PEG-S500C/PEG-S300
Palm OS(R) ver.3.5
CPU Dragonball EZi 20MHz
8MB(DRAM)/4MB(Flash)/8MB(MS)
USB
LCD 160/160 dots
256/16
70.9/114.7/15.2 mm
120g
AC
8MB CD-ROM

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Location:
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Originally posted by foo fighter:
The Grayscale device will retail for $510, while the color version will go for $555.

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ACK!!!! Are you Serious!! That's outragous!! No WAY will these sell big with a price like that! The IIIc is $60 LESS than their b/w PDA!!

And I was worried they might take some of the Japanese market away from Handspring!

I think unless they seriously drop the price when they come to the US with it, their PDAs aren't going to do too well.

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Originally posted by foo fighter:
I think the Pocket PC is going to pound this thing. It's too expensive, and you can actually buy Pocket PCs for much lower prices.

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I agree with you, foo. But I think it will do well in Japan. Many Japanese people like top-of-the-line everything. In addition, many people tend to think the price is equal to the quality. Also they like & trust Sony "Brand". I see lots of complaints about Palm and HS for not recalling products w/faulty DRAM on many Japanese Palm/Visor sites. They seem more upset than Americans even if they aren't having any problems with their units. They think Sony would recall their product if something like that happens(I'm not sure if that's true, though).

My personal experience with Sony products are not so good Besides, I don't like design of PEG. Why do they have to have that metal-looking borders(sounds like it's plastic)? Yuk! It reminds me of early models of Walkman.

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Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 109

First of all, I don't get why the B&W is only $50 or so less than the color? There's not much incentive to buy B&W when color is just a tad more.

Secondly, I found a link to a developer site buried within those other links. It too is in Japanese, but maybe we can garner something:
http://www.jp.sonypdadev.com/magazi...0713/index.html

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Registered: Mar 2000
Location: nowheresburg, PH
Posts: 98

Anybody know when Sony started this "jog-dial" technology? The first time I encountered this type was with the first export model of the MD Player/Recorder.

One more thing. I don't think I will buy any of the PEG's considering the design, size, most of all, the price.

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

"Sony positions its personal entertainment organizer as one of the strategic products of the coming broadband network era . . ."
Quote from the Sony Press Release

Most people do not have access, even within large population centers, to broadband and won't until we get something like wireless broadband.

Registered: May 2000
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 194

Its worth the money you pay, its only a little bigger than a palmV with a whole helluva lot more features on it.... its worth the extra hundred bucks you pay. But one question, does it come with a memory stick included? the 8mbDRAM/4mbFlash/8mb MS seems to imply this

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

All Sony products are always priced higher than their competitors products.

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Originally posted by foo fighter:

The Grayscale device will retail for $510, while the color version will go for $555.

I think the Pocket PC is going to pound this thing. It's too expensive

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Registered: May 2000
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 194

Also, ive heard that there might be limited wireless capabilities on it. Are those there?

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Originally posted by b1lanceman:
Its worth the money you pay, its only a little bigger than a palmV with a whole helluva lot more features on it....

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Registered: Mar 2000
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I'm assuming that Sony will be putting some enhancements on it so that it would be able to compete in the in the US PDA market.

Registered: Nov 1999
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The +$500 price for the both models widened my eyes at first but then i thought about it.

Visor = $249
PalmIIIc = $449
on the sony:
8MB memory stick $20
built in modem for cell phone:$unknown (i'll assume $120 (since this is what the Thincom goes for and it's not a cell phone modem so it could be more!)
USB cradle (IIIc doesn't have this)
Colour (Visor doesn't have this)
software: built in internet browser
"g-media" video viewer
image viewer

SO after looking at what you get...it's DEFINATLEY better than the IIIc as it has much more built in for not much more in price and it ends up being similar in price to the visor WITH a colour display. But as we see in the Soundoff "colour" thread...some people don't want colour.

It's like the automobile analogy (we always go back to this example don't we?) The new volkswagons come with a lot of standard features but cost more than a Honda Civic. However, if you wanted those features on the civic, you'd end up paying the same or more than the volkswagon!

VW managed to convince consumers to pay a little extra for these features that became standard. I wonder if Sony will do the same? Otherwise i wouldn't use price as the reason why it won't sell well in the States.

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Campbell, CA
Posts: 3

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Originally posted by foo fighter:
Here are the specs for the new Sony PDA:

PEG-S500C/PEG-S300
Palm OS(R) ver.3.5
CPU Dragonball EZi 20MHz
8MB(DRAM)/4MB(Flash)/8MB(MS)
USB
LCD 160/160 dots
256/16
70.9/114.7/15.2 mm
120g
AC
8MB CD-ROM

The Grayscale device will retail for $510, while the color version will go for $555.

I think the Pocket PC is going to pound this thing. It's too expensive, and you can actually buy Pocket PCs for much lower prices. There is no built in audio capabilties, and the display is still only 160x160 just like the Palm IIIc.

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