Registered: May 2000
Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Posts: 37

Will be ordering a modem in the next couple of days, now the question!! Which modem to go with, the Handspring or Thincom? If I go with the Thincom, does it come with a dongle for phone hookup?

Registered: Nov 1999
Location:
Posts: 109

Yes, you must use the supplied phone cord. I would also stop by your local Radio Shack and buy a phone cord coupler so you can connect the Thincom phone cord into another so you won't need to get to the phone jack.

Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Lawrence, NY, USA
Posts: 148

I'd suggest you go w/ the Handspring unless you travel a lot and can't afford the bulk. Whichever one you get, however, I highly advise you to buy a TeleSpool (or similar product) instead of going w/ the included phone cord. They're available from
Teleadaptusa.com. Oh yeah, they do come w/ a coupler.

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Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

The Thincom modem DOES NOT require a dongel or adapter -- see my email to CardAccess and their reply. If you go to their site and under the support tab look at the Adobe Acrobat files, you can see the cord that is supplied and that an adapter/dongle isn't used.
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Subj: Re: Thincom cable connections
Date: 6/28/00
From: [email protected] (Card Access)

Yes, the included cable has different connectors at opposite ends. One end
plugs directly into any standard telephone line and the end that connects
into the Thincom modem has a connector identical to the kind of connector
used in Laptop PC Card modems.

Thank you for your inquiry,

Card Access Support www.cardaccess-inc.com

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From: me
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000
Subject: Thincom cable connections

Does the cable furnished with the Thincom have different connectors at
opposite ends? One for incertion into the modem and on the other end, one
for a standard phone jack? Or is an adapter required for insertion into
the modem?

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Orem, UT USA
Posts: 6

The Thincom phone cord has an RJ-11 male connector (to connect it to the phone system) on one end, and a 4 pin JAE male connector (to connect it to the Thincom modem) on the other end.

The JAE connector is a mobile connector used by multiple PC Card manufacturers in the mobile computing space. A standard connector (not proprietary), you can connect ANY 4 pin male JAE connector to Thincom and have it work just fine. There are literally millions of phone cables with JAE connectors out there. Any third party cords with male 4 pin JAE connectors will work fine.

The cord from Card Access is the same size as a standard cord, and will take up the same space as a "normal" phone cord.

Kiporama

Registered: May 2000
Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Posts: 37

Well, unfortunately the Thincom is out of stock at PalmGear H.Q. and they do not know when they will be receiving the next shipment. I am leaving town next week and cannot wait so I went with the HS modem. I plan on going with multimail pro and need to know if any 3rd party software will allow me to log onto my work email on the web, it requires 128 bit SSL.

Registered: Dec 1999
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 268

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Originally posted by eodman:
I plan on going with multimail pro and need to know if any 3rd party software will allow me to log onto my work email on the web, it requires 128 bit SSL.

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Registered: Nov 1999
Location:
Posts: 109

If you click on security in the Multimail Pro application, it asks you to contact Actual Software about the encryption feature.

Registered: May 2000
Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Posts: 37

Well, I got the HS modem in today and it's not to bad. Obvisiously it's not as small as the Thincom but it will do for me. As for the secure programs (SSL) for the Visor, proxiweb claims to it can handle SSL connections.

Registered: Dec 1999
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 268

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Originally posted by eodman:
As for the secure programs (SSL) for the Visor, proxiweb claims to it can handle SSL connections.

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Registered: Jan 2000
Location:
Posts: 391

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Originally posted by Charo:
Yes, the included cable has different connectors at opposite ends. One end
plugs directly into any standard telephone line and the end that connects
into the Thincom modem has a connector identical to the kind of connector
used in Laptop PC Card modems.

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Registered: Feb 2000
Location:
Posts: 638

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Orginally posted by argent:
This provides no useful information. There are at least three different form factors for these connectors, and the most popular one supports 8-way keying... plus there's no standard wiring. Different cards, even made by the same manufacturer, almost always have incompatible pinouts. The chances of any dongle from a PC-card working with the Thincomm are practically non-existent.

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But remembre, it was also said that it was a standard JAE connector. And to back that up I must say that I have an old PCMCIA modem that uses a JAE connector.
The reason that a company(let's use Xircom for example) uses many different connectors even in the same product line is because one of the connectors may be better than the other. Probably in this case the best connector will cost the most. To keep prices down on the models that are not meant for Business prfessionals they use a less expensive, cheaper connector.
BEN

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It helps if I spell Quote correctly

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Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

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Originally posted by argent:
This provides no useful information.

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Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

A great picture of the cord furnished with the Thincom is in James' review: http://www.visorcentral.com/vcrevie...?id=44&pv=1 They will be selling replacement cords also, if they haven't already started.

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 276

Is it just me or are people completely forgetting about the six pack? I mean, it is a cellular modem and a land line modem in one?

But, on the contrary... after seeing their pricing for the MiniJam, I couldn't imagine what they are going to charge for the SixPack. Do I have to take out a mortgage in order to buy this module?

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Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA
Posts: 181

$200 has been the projected price.

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But, on the contrary... after seeing their pricing for the MiniJam, I couldn't imagine what they are going to charge for the SixPack. Do I have to take out a mortgage in order to buy this module?

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Registered: Jan 2000
Location:
Posts: 391

Look, I'm the network administrator here, I have 150 users, maybe 30 have company laptops, so I go through a lot of PCMCIA cards. There is no standard pinout for the connectors on these things... I have to keep 3 different modem dongles all with virtually the same connector in stock just for Xircom spares, and the last Xircom I picked up had yet another kind of connector... so if the thincom doesn't have an RJ-11 connector it will need a custom cable (dongle). If it doesn't need a dongle, then it can't be using a PCMCIA-style "low profile" connector.

Registered: Sep 1999
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 12

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Originally posted by Charo:
I repeat, useful to you or not, the Thincom modem DOES NOT REQUIRE A DONGLE.

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