Registered: Feb 2002
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Prism v. ClieT615

Hello everyone, I am thinking of upgrading from a VDX and currently my two top choices are the Prism or the Clie T615 as I want a color device. Does anyone have any advice especially regarding the screen. I'm more concerned about colors being washed out, clarity and brightness than I am about useability outdoors. I don't really want mp3 capability and the form factor is not as important as useability. Thanks in advance.

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10

I have owned both the prism and the t615c. The colors on the prism were definitely more brilliant. On the Sony, the reds have more of a brownish hue and the blues seem a bit paler. However, the high resolution screen sure makes the text easy to read. Overall, I am sticking with the sony. The form factor of the prism isn't comparable.

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Philippines
Posts: 38

what about the question of outdoor / under bright lights look of the screen.

am planning to buy one for my wife together with an EM2 (she loves mine on my VPLat) but her job sometimes takes her into the field. we read some concern about the screen being difficult to see when used outdoors.

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 26

I too have owned both a Prism & T615C, and can tell you that outdoors there is no comparison. The Sony is perfectly useable outdoors, and the Prism is comparatively worthless. On an overcast day, the Prism stands some chance of being read (with your hand shielding the screen), but with full sunshine, forget it.

If you plan on using your PDA outdoors at all, go with the Sony. If you're looking more in the Prism's price range, and you don't mind the larger form factor, try the recently-discontinued Sony N610 (some stores may still have stock, or eBay I suppose). The N610 was my PDA before the T615C and I loved it, esp. outside!

As far as a camera goes, Sony has a memory stick camera, but check out reviews on it. From what I've heard, it's not as good quality as the EM2.

Registered: Feb 2002
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Is the screen of the Prism larger than the Clie? Is hi res a significant factor in the decision to choose a Clie over the Prism? Lastly, do I have this right that when Palm comes out with OS5 you can upgrade the Clie but not the Prism? Thanks again for the great info.

Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Singapore
Posts: 174

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Originally posted by manilaborn
Is the screen of the Prism larger than the Clie? Is hi res a significant factor in the decision to choose a Clie over the Prism? Lastly, do I have this right that when Palm comes out with OS5 you can upgrade the Clie but not the Prism? Thanks again for the great info.

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Yeah. that's one thing.

It's a pity that Visors dont have the Flash ROM chip... otherwise, OS 4, here we come!

I wonder what Jeff and Donna were thinking when they said No to the engineers... On the other hand, if we keep upgrading the OS, what $$$ will Handspring earn? Because then no one would upgrade!

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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 108

No, the sony cannot be upgraded to Os 5. That OS will require an ARM processor, not a Dragonball like the Prism & Sony have.

Doug

Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Titusville, Fl --- AKA: Star City USA
Posts: 27

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Originally posted by TDS_Computer
No, the sony cannot be upgraded to Os 5. That OS will require an ARM processor, not a Dragonball like the Prism & Sony have.

Doug

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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 201

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Originally posted by dnottingham


Actually if you go Here:

http://www.palmos.com/platform/os5/osdatasheet_3.html

You will see that OS 5 WILL be compatible with DragonBall Processors.

Also this page mentions Motorola demonstrating an OS 5 device running on a DragonBall Processor at PalmSource:

http://www.pdabuzz.com/#newsitem1013068668,6919,

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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 334

They may be calling the ARM a Dragonball, but the current ones
are not 32 bit like the ARM is. Therefore any current device will not
be able to upgrade to OS 5.

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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Them Twin Cities
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Originally posted by Zip-Zilla
I wonder what Jeff and Donna were thinking when they said No to the engineers... On the other hand, if we keep upgrading the OS, what $$$ will Handspring earn? Because then no one would upgrade!

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Originally posted by dietrichbohn
I think they were thinking: if the ROM is flashable, then there will be an expectation of upgrades the moment they're available. We know that the folks at Palm aren't going to do anything innovative or wacky for awhile, so lets save money and save face with the non-upgradeable OS. We'll make up the difference by including a version of that Datebook3 app and maybe some other little stuff.

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Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Baltimore MD, USA
Posts: 717

Just to muddy the waters

What's this Cli� N760c thing on the Sony website?
It is listed as $450 as opposed to $400 for the T615c.

Quickly compairing the two, I fail to see any significant difference between them. Other than a slight difference in their memory specfications.

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Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Baltimore MD, USA
Posts: 717

Maybe I should look first...

D'oh!!

Of course, Visor Central already has the answer to my questions!

http://discussion.visorcentral.com/...;threadid=21313

http://discussion.visorcentral.com/...?threadid=21321

Registered: Feb 2002
Location:
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I have had my Prism for one year and enjoy it. I am very disappointed in Handspring and have no faith in this company any more. I can't recommend that anybody buy a product that has been discontinued - even if it is reduced in price.

I am going to try to get out of the Handspring family as soon as possible. Why buy a treo? Who knows when Handspriing will dump that product line.

I think I would be better off with a pocket pc. Microsoft is pretty tenacious about their products and don't give up easily. I will be looking at the sony and the Casio E200. The Casio has a USB connection that other usb devices can attach to such as a regular keyboard, scanner, printer etc. This is a very interesting and seemingly useful option.

As far as I am concerned it is so long to Handspring. They sent me their so called $150 dollar off offer. I just don't want to risk throwing away another $400 on one of their products.

Part of the reason that I am so mad is that their handspring board idea is great. I like the capability. Its a shame!

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 36

Don't forget that the Sony has a jog dial.

It's extremely useful, a lot of funktions can be accessed with one hand and no stylus. And no thumb-ache when reading long texts.

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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 13

Probs with fonts

Been using me visor for about 2 months...overall its pretty good....but i seem to have probs with the fonts...(hi-res) dat is...
anyone has any ideas? Using wordsmith, hi-res just makes my fonts go fuzzy.....and using superdoc(ebook reader) i get the same result

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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Singapore
Posts: 174

Re: Probs with fonts

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Originally posted by Xolstis
Been using me visor for about 2 months...overall its pretty good....but i seem to have probs with the fonts...(hi-res) dat is...
anyone has any ideas? Using wordsmith, hi-res just makes my fonts go fuzzy.....and using superdoc(ebook reader) i get the same result

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Visor doesn't support Hi-res fonts because the LCD resolution is only 160x160.

Only the SONY Clies support Hi-Res (the N600, N700, T600 series).

Cheers.

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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Them Twin Cities
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Re: Re: Probs with fonts

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Originally posted by Zip-Zilla
Only the SONY Clies support Hi-Res (the N600, N700, T600 series).

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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Originally posted by pgnewarkboy
I have had my Prism for one year and enjoy it. I am very disappointed in Handspring and have no faith in this company any more. I can't recommend that anybody buy a product that has been discontinued - even if it is reduced in price.

I am going to try to get out of the Handspring family as soon as possible. Why buy a treo? Who knows when Handspriing will dump that product line.

I think I would be better off with a pocket pc. Microsoft is pretty tenacious about their products and don't give up easily. I will be looking at the sony and the Casio E200

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