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quote:I think the biggest hurdle to that will be at the driver level. I'm sure that some iPaq people might try overcoming that (since they've been able to port Linux to it). Do any other PocketPCs have Linux on them yet?
Originally posted by sowens
This (running on PPC hardware) is what I was hoping they'd do. Since most PPC devices have FLASH, it would not only give them readily available development platforms, but it would also allow current PPC users to run PalmOS, if they so choose.
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However, it appears that most of the time it's going to be running in some sort of 68k emulation mode (probably running only on a Moto processor, since Moto bought an ARM license a while back)
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with code written in ARM assembler only for critical subroutines (i'm guessing the multimedia routines),
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so I'm not sure it will run on standard PPC hardware.
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Still, it'll be interesting to see what HW this can run on, since I'll be in the market for a new PDA this fall.
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Originally posted by Toby
Moto isn't Palm's choice for their hardware. Texas Instruments' OMAP is, so that's not the case.
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I was under the impression that most of the routines were being translated (more like a WINE type environment rather than a VMWARE one).
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quote:More likely that Palm is licensing the bits of that core that they're exploiting (if any) since there's no guarantee which ARM processor their OEMs will choose.
Originally posted by sowens
I thought the Dragonball was Moto only, since it's a 68k core. So TI licenses the architecture from Moto?
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Just going by what I've read in the articles, which claim that only certain things were getting translated for speed purposes, but that everything else would be left alone.
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It could be the typical misunderstanding by the journalists, and all the higher-level code is written in C and therefore only requires a recompile (not that it ever actually works out that way). I guess time will tell.
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quote:I think this URL higher up on the page which you link to (in that thread) will shed a bit more light on the point I was trying to make, though. It confirms what I was saying (and remembering...whew
Originally posted by bookrats
You might want to take a look at this recent VC article (and subsequent replies) -- it goes into a lot of the OS 5 emulation/real ARM code questions.
). Although one is writing to the same APIs as the dragonball-based Palms, there isn't anything emulating a dragonball. It's translation from those APIs to native ARM.
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Originally posted by Toby
It's translation from those APIs to native ARM.
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Originally posted by Toby
I think this URL higher up on the page which you link to (in that thread) will shed a bit more light on the point I was trying to make, though. It confirms what I was saying (and remembering...whew
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quote:I'm beginning to think that all of the PDA manufacturers are going to be in the middle of an upheaval within the near future. PocketPC is touting the XScales as their Next Big Thing, but there's apparently not going to be any of the XScale features supported for a while in the OS (most importantly the supposed power-saving benefits).
Originally posted by Techie2000
Hmm. Sounds like OS 5=Flop until Palm can swallow their current programs and port it to run on StrongARM nativly. Otherwise your basically running programs that work fine at 16MHz at 206MHz
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Originally posted by sowens
On /. they're saying it'll be about a month's time before OS 5 devices hit the streets.
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