Registered: Nov 1999
Location: washington, dc
Posts: 82

http://www.visorcentral.com/page/0-2-1024-2.htm

At first I thought this was a joke. saw the article, checked out the website. Who's gonna be the first to try it and write a review? Still pretty funny. Wonder what they mean by this:

"Q - What does it feel like?
A -
Not to be too biased but it feels great! You experience a slight tingling sensation on your earlobes for a while then it seems to disappear. Then it gets quite subjective, all we can say is - it's good."


I know a better way to get a good feeling by tickling (my wife's) earlobes, and it's not with a machine!!

Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Burbank, CA
Posts: 20

What are they thinking?

Snake oil sales comes to the PDA world!!! I wonder what the FDA thinks about this module? Sure, "this won't hurt a bit, just attach these two electrodes to your earlobes...". I wonder how much the college students got paid to beta test this module?

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Gee, wouldn't this work great w/the "Nudule" being discussed in another thread?

Seriously, though, didn't they use something like this on Jack Nicholson in "1 Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"? ("Nurse Ratchett, could you attach those probes a little lower down this time? Thank you. No, has nothing to do with any so-called 'Nudule' you may have heard of....")

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If anyone gets these modules, please let us know.

I'm assuming this is like biofeedback which has merits in a clinical aspect. I'm curious to know how it works with the Visor and its effectiveness. For those who must have every module (including these two - Gamma and Delta modules), please share with us how it all works.

The website does describe the effects as "too good to be true", but who knows for sure.

Thanks.

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Re: If anyone gets these modules, please let us know.

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Originally posted by chungmike
1) I'm assuming this is like biofeedback which has merits in a clinical aspect.
2) I'm curious to know how it works with the Visor and its effectiveness.
3) For those who must have every module (including these two - Gamma and Delta modules), please share with us how it all works.
4) The website does describe the effects as "too good to be true", but who knows for sure. Thanks.

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1) I doubt anyone doubts this, but ...
2) ... there's the rub.
3) Geez, I wonder if anyone even falls into this category. That'd be an interesting poll: Does ANYone own EVERY SB? I'd bet not. (Not quite as cheap as Beanie Babies!)
4) You know what they always warn when things are touted as "too good to be true," though....

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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 28

Snake Oil and Hair Tonic?

Sorry to be a Party Pooper.

This is what the FDA said when I asked them a few questions about the company and the modules....

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Dear Ms. Barnhart:

This is in response to your e-mail to the Food and Drug Administration(FDA)asking if Neural FX has FDA approved products.

According to FDA's releasable 510(k) database, Neural FX has not received marketing clearance for its device. I am forwarding your e-mail to FDA's Compliance Office for their information and follow up.

Sincerely yours,

Phyllis S. Weller
Consumer Staff
Office of Health and Industry Programs
Division of Small Manufacturers Assistance
1-800-638-2041, Ext. 143
[email protected]

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Registered: Jul 2000
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Ahhh - the ol' mind control device! Cmon people, we've all seen this movie.


"It was better than Cats! I will see it again and again . . ."

Kupe

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Kona, Hawaii ,USA
Posts: 40

Just like the car rental commercial

I can see it now. It will be just like the car rental commercial that shows everyone passed-out due to the aromatherapy candles in the car while driving.

Folks will be driving around with the Visors plugged into their heads with this gizmo.

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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6

These Modules work as Advertised

There was a unit called the NeuroTrek Multiplex which was on the market last year which was very effective in that it produced all the brainstates in one unit. These modules are a take off on that technology by it's inventor. These modules are great tools for people to be able to have and use without a prescription or having to ask someones permission! Also, they have a full moneyback guarantee if they don't work as specified. Try it before you bash it! I do understand that fear will cause us to shoot first before taking the time to understand a new thing that could be of great benefit to us.
As far as it feeling good, both modules cause a release of endorphins which is similar to having a glass of wine. This technology has been around for over fifty years. If you search the internet for CES (Cranial Electro Stimulation)you will find alot of research supporting the claims made. If you want to bring the FDA into it you will be destroying the opportunity for you to have a great tool without getting permission first, think about it! The FDA will approve the technology then it will be classified for clinical use or only by prescription which is how most CES devices are currently classified. This unit is NOT for medical use or for the diagnosis, treatment, or cure of diseases of any kind. It's an aid for relaxation or to help relieve stress thru the use of existing well researched technology.

Registered: Nov 2000
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I see VisorCentral now has ads for these modules on the front page...

...looks like we've got ads in this thread too.



Anyone else think the ElectricMedical Research page looks a lot like Innogear's page?

And one last thing, does she look like she is enjoying the module?

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Registered: Oct 2000
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Posts: 30

Dangers of this module and seizures?

Wait a second, You're sending Electrical impulses accross the Brain here... what are the chances of triggering an epileptic seizure? (obviously a known epileptic would not use this type of device)
If simple visual stimulus (flashing lights at ~11Hz) can cause a seizure in people previously seizure free (anyone remember the pokeman show in japan causing the kids to sieze and throw up?)

Just wondering

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: North Calolina
Posts: 92

Geeeezzzzz -- Give this company a break - yes I know I am guilty of talking about the website look alike but lets give them some credit and thanks for comeing out with an innovative module! Why are you guys thrashing a company for coming out with a innovative module??? I bet right now they are saying to themselves that "its not worth it" and will most likely have their next product be something other than a module for the visor.

We need to thank companies like this - their next module may just be the module of your dreams - but instead you guys thrash these companies!

There is NO money in the module makeing business - companies who are making them are really hurting and droping like flies -- and on top of it you guys treat them this way?

If you want to see innovative add-ons for your VISOR - then support them and thank them - incurage them to continue to bring more innovative modules.

My two cents --!!

Registered: Sep 1999
Location: Seattle, Wa, USA
Posts: 66

What would be best is if Visorcentral obtained these two modules and did an objective review of them.

Any chance of this happening? It would certainly help clear this up one way or another. They sound very tempting, and I'm sure many of us would want one if a third party said that the modules actually worked.

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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: South Carolina
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quote:

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Originally posted by Matthew Nichols
And one last thing, does she look like she is enjoying the module?

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Hilarious!

But, I sure could use some stress relief...

Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1683

Timberlake...how are these innovative?

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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: North Calolina
Posts: 92

They are sure a hell of alot more innovative then memory modules ect..
This is a creative module - like I said -- it is companies like this that just may be the one to launch your "dream module"

Registered: Jun 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posts: 19

My "dream" module is certainly not anything this company would be interested in manufacturing.

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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6

Dream Module

Maybe they can build your "Dream" module. What would that be?

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Re: Dream Module

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Originally posted by bgelert
Maybe they can build your "Dream" module. What would that be?

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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6

Obviously

I think it's obvious that I'm with the company. I put my signature header at the bottom of my email. Also, I'm asking what modules you would like to see come out, depending on what it is we might be able to accomodate quickly.

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