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Bret Snyder
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Has anyone see the new software from McAfee re: Virus software for the Palm OS?
http://www.mcafee.com/wireless/

I am curious if anyone has tried this yet.

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agoldfish
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I had a look at it on their site, but unlike just about every other vendor of virus protection on (most) other platforms there was no free trial.
Now call me cynical, but to pay $50 (or so) for a virus killer for PalmOS when there have been no reported viri (viruses ? ) seems a bit silly.
I seem to remember reading something recently that pointed out that viri on PalmOS would not really be a very good idea anyway, as people don't really beam programs from one unit to the other often enough for a virus to spread fast enough to propogate efficiently.

Personally, I think McAfee are just after a quick buck.

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John Nowak
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I saw a demo at PC Expo. It's an interesting question, because while no virus for the Palm OS has been announced as yet, it's certainly possible this will happen, and it will spread reasonably quickly -- I hear about people beaming executables to strangers a lot, so it's just a matter of time.

$50 a year is a fair chunk of change, but putting an infrastructure in place ahead of time would let people who have it already download the updated virus scanner and resolve the problem quicker than people who try to buy it when the first virus or trojan hits. You know when and if it does there's going to be a lot of people trying to dial in.

Personally, I'm undecided. There's no known Palm virus, but I've got renter's insurance, and I've never had a fire or robbery either.

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how can McAfee build a virus scanner if there are no Viri out there??
What will it detect?? It cannot use signatures since there are no PalmOS viri...
It could only detect viruslike behaviour, but that would mean it would need to run in the background... I'm not sure if PalmOs can multitaks, but I always assumed it could not...

I guess the only way McAfee could sell this product is by creating their own Virus .....
create your own demand...

I think a backupmodule is a better anti virus sollution. before you receive any data, make a backup first... if it contains a virus, restore the backup... easy as �

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Originally posted by ToolkiT:
how can McAfee build a virus scanner if there are no Viri out there??
What will it detect?? It cannot use signatures since there are no PalmOS viri...
It could only detect viruslike behaviour, but that would mean it would need to run in the background... I'm not sure if PalmOs can multitaks, but I always assumed it could not...



The program actually runs during hotsync, and is resident on the desktop computer.

I'm never worked with virus scanning software professionally and I don't know a lot about it, but I'd imagine at least one thing the program could do is track changes in executable code to see if specific applications are being mutated.

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I guess the only way McAfee could sell this product is by creating their own Virus .....
create your own demand...



Wasn't this on X-Files?

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I think a backupmodule is a better anti virus sollution. before you receive any data, make a backup first... if it contains a virus, restore the backup... easy as �



Unless someone writes a virus that stays dormant until a specific date, in which case you'll likely back it up along with the rest of your programs.

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My crazy, "conspiracy theory" is that viruses are created by antivirus companies. Therefore, now that we see an antivirus for the palm...we will soon see viruses. Damn, I wish they had just left us alone.

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Anyone Who's seen MI:2 Should remember that the whole plot was a company creating a new killer virus so they could make money on selling the antidote This idea's the same thing, just a diferent type of virus

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Originally posted by Tan Kit Hoong
My crazy, "conspiracy theory" is that viruses are created by antivirus companies. Therefore, now that we see an antivirus for the palm...we will soon see viruses. Damn, I wish they had just left us alone.


Is there some truth behind this? We didn't have a virus
until a antivirus program was created.

I am beginning to believe this "conspiracy theory".

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John Nowak
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quote:
Originally posted by Bret Snyder
Is there some truth behind this? We didn't have a virus
until a antivirus program was created.



Or, in other words, nobody found a virus and told people about it until someone started looking for one...

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Is it only me, or has anybody ever stopped to remember that we currently perform Hard-resets on our PalmOS PDA's quite often as it is? If a virus was ever to enter your Visor, it'd be a simple hard-reset and then re-sync.

Why would i want to pay for software when i can deal with the virus for free?!?!? Using a method that pretty much every PalmOS PDA user has done once in their lives???

What a scam they're running. AND it's getting hyped so much it's fooling a large number of people out there!

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Or, if you really want anti-virus software, and know that your not going to be at your computer then buy the back-up module. That way you can use the module if you need it for any other hard-resets.
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Originally posted by Hoser_in_USA
Why would i want to pay for software when i can deal with the virus for free?!?!? Using a method that pretty much every PalmOS PDA user has done once in their lives???

What a scam they're running. AND it's getting hyped so much it's fooling a large number of people out there!



I agree 100% with this. With my Backup Module, Backupbuddy w/Driveway and Network Folder Backups, and regular system backups ... I don't think a Palm virus would cause as much pain as a real PC virus.

I guess that if I ever got a virus, I probably would not even know it (just chalk it up to another bad program). Because of some of the "Fatal Errors" I have had with programs I downloaded from Palmgear, I usually try things out on the Palm Emulator before installing on my Visor.

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Originally posted by Hoser_in_USA
Is it only me, or has anybody ever stopped to remember that we currently perform Hard-resets on our PalmOS PDA's quite often as it is? If a virus was ever to enter your Visor, it'd be a simple hard-reset and then re-sync.


Unless it remains in memory inactive until after you HotSync.

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cfralick
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Lightbulb Norton Virus for Palm

Just for your information Symantec now has virus protection software for the palm OS.

http://www.symantec.com/press/2000/n000907.html

It's still in beta but I haven't had any stability problems or crashes.

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