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robert sibell
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after my brother finishes electronic school i was going to ask him if he could add some memory or add capitors for when the batteries are out. so i would like to know if this would be legal.

thanks,
bob

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05-02-2001 10:49 PM

homer
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It's highly illegal. I think you're looking at a minimum of 4 years if they catch you doing that. If you're lucky, they'll stick you in some low-security white-collar crime country club prison.

Or did you mean 'would it void my warranty'? If so, then yes. It would.

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05-02-2001 11:05 PM

markleetoo
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quote:
It's highly illegal. I think you're looking at a minimum of 4 years if they catch you doing that. If you're lucky, they'll stick you in some low-security white-collar crime country club prison.

I usually consider myself pretty well informed but, I know nothing about this. Why is it illegal?

05-02-2001 11:09 PM

atroup2000
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Okay guys,

NO: it is not illegal.

YES: it will void your warranty.
-This means that if you muck with the hardware, Handspring will no longer
support you if your hardware fails.

Drew

05-02-2001 11:14 PM

homer
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quote:
I usually consider myself pretty well informed but, I know nothing about this. Why is it illegal?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I believe it is penal code 14.53.b section 12 paragraph 3 that states:

"Messing with the insides your visor is illegal. Recommended sentencing guidelines are a minimum of 4 years and a maximum of 20."

I think Microsoft's WinCE Washingtion Lobbiests had a lot do with getting this law passed.

Next to going to jail for smoking Pot, this has got to be one of our country's dumbest laws.

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05-02-2001 11:24 PM

MarkEagle
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quote:
Originally posted by homer
one of our country's dumbest laws.

Nah... life for using the original stock stylus has that honor.

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05-03-2001 12:25 AM

atroup2000
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Mark,
So what stylus do you reccomend?

Drew

05-03-2001 02:46 AM

recordond
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Stylus+ Four way stylus pen, it totally kicks ass!

http://www.stylusplus.com

05-03-2001 04:33 AM

homer
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Nah... life for using the original stock stylus has that honor.

Well, I actually think that is an excellent law. People that go around with no regard to the protection of their visor screen SHOULD be punished.

Granted, the death penalty is a bit harsh. It would be nice if they would put more taxpayer money into stylus offender rehabilitation rather than incarceration.

And I DO think they should offer protection to students in schools. Stylus abstinence is a silly concept. I find nothing wrong in handing out WriteRights to students enrolled in Visor Ed classes...no matter what those crazy bible thumpers say.

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05-03-2001 04:49 AM

ProjectZero
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How would this be applicable on the "Thou Shall Only Use Win CE devices"?

I mean, do they accumulate the penalties when you own a Visor and add capacitors and memory to it?

Stay tuned for PDA Court, coming to a Fireviewer near you...

05-03-2001 08:19 AM

dick-richardson
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quote:
Originally posted by ProjectZero
How would this be applicable on the "Thou Shall Only Use Win CE devices"?

I mean, do they accumulate the penalties when you own a Visor and add capacitors and memory to it?

Stay tuned for PDA Court, coming to a Fireviewer near you...

The WinCE commandment is purely religious. I have to point out that stylus protection won't protect your screen 100% of the time. Just because "kids are going to use them anyway" is no excuse for parents and school officials to condone it.

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05-03-2001 04:00 PM

homer
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Just because "kids are going to use them anyway" is no excuse for parents and school officials to condone it.

Just because one provide access to screen protection does NOT mean one condones the act of using a stock stylus. We can preach stylus abstinence but there are realities of human nature that we need to educate our Visor-using youth about.

(To take this thread off-topic, I've always found it ironic how those who are against abortion are typically the same people against sex-ed, condom distributions and even masturbation.)

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05-03-2001 04:15 PM

dick-richardson
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quote:
Originally posted by homer
Just because one provide access to screen protection does NOT mean one condones the act of using a stock stylus. We can preach stylus abstinence but there are realities of human nature that we need to educate our Visor-using youth about.

How effective can your "stylus abstinence" message be when you're handing out screen protectors? "Don't use the stylus, but if you do make sure you're using screen protectors. Here's a couple you can use for when you use the stock stylus like we told you not to."

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(To take this thread off-topic, I've always found it ironic how those who are against abortion are typically the same people against sex-ed, condom distributions and even masturbation.)

I agree. It comes from a religious (mostly Catholic) belief in procreation, which states that sex should only occur as God intended: married w/o a condom. Condoms are unnatural, and so is having sex outside of wed-lock.

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05-03-2001 07:30 PM

homer
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How effective can your "stylus abstinence" message be when you're handing out screen protectors? "Don't use the stylus, but if you do make sure you're using screen protectors.

There is a difference between telling people what to do and educating people about the choices available.

I'd like people to have the facts about stylus abstinence vs. using screen protection. I am not making judgement on which method is right...the only person that can decide that is the individual person.

Too many Visor-ed courses revolve around attempts at making decisions for the student. We, as a societly, need to give youth more credit. They can make decisions. Do they make bad decisions? Most certainly. Can we stop them from making bad decisions? I doubt it. Can we provide all the facts regarding all of the options so that they would more likely to make an educated decision? Yes.

But I think I'm digressing now

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05-03-2001 07:40 PM

sschweg
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quote:
Originally posted by homer

(To take this thread off-topic, I've always found it ironic how those who are against abortion are typically the same people against sex-ed, condom distributions and even masturbation.)

We conservative minded folk find it just as ironic that those who are for abortion rights are against the death penalty.

Irony abounds!

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05-03-2001 11:48 PM

homer
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We conservative minded folk find it just as ironic that those who are for abortion rights are against the death penalty.

Hmm...we're really stupid animals aren't we?

I just realized that Bush is against abortion and for the death penalty.

Silly humans we are.

(Now...how did we end up talking about abortion rights in a Visor forum?

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05-04-2001 12:06 AM

Rob
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quote:
Originally posted by homer
(Now...how did we end up talking about abortion rights in a Visor forum? )

Yeah! They should have a law against that! (trying to get this thread back on the original, albeit silly, topic)

05-04-2001 12:28 AM

sschweg
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quote:
Originally posted by homer

Hmm...we're really stupid animals aren't we?

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(Now...how did we end up talking about abortion rights in a Visor forum? )

Becky,

I think your answer has preceeded your question. I think that we are talking about Abortion rights because we don't know how to answer poor Robert, who only wants to know if, when he gets certified, his brother can hack his Prism without emoting the ire of some unnamed authority.

Robert, the sincere answer to your question is this...

This is America. You and your brother can do anything you desire to your Prism as long as you are willing to suffer the consequences of your actions. No one will come and get you, and no one will bail you out if you fail in your endeavor.

God Bless America!!!!

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