KRamsauer
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Originally posted by K. Cannon
But wasn't that your original point you kept harping on, one that I said I didn't agree to--that there was a distinction between assuming something about someone and it being factually wrong and assuming something about someone and it being morally wrong. And me saying assuming someone about someone based on their religion is just wrong wrong?
The distinction I've been making all along is it depends on what you are assuming. If it is a morally neutral fact, why is it (morally) wrong? If it is not, of course it's (morally) wrong. Don't go assuming being Jewish implies greediness. Obviously not!
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You never really answered my question: If J. Happel was personally offended by your assumption, do you think that it was wrong?
I did answer your question: "If he offended by the notion that someone is under the impression that more Jewish people favor war than don't, I think he needs to rethink his views.... Remember, in my framework, wanting war against Iraq is no more offensive than prefering orange M&Ms." There are things that people shouldn't be offended by. For instance I'm not offended if you are surprised I like classical music. Because I realize that in making the assumption that I don't, you weren't thinking "oh he's a bum because he doesn't like classical music." My claims here are nothing spectacular but yet it keeps being twisted into somehow saying I support judging people before I meet them. Indeed judging is the last thing one should do as it requires a whole host of information. Judging is not the same as hypothesizing.
What this has come down to is that I refuse to ignore things that have been ignored by others because by recognizing them they couldn't avoid judging people.
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You can think about how things should be all you want, there, Slick. Just don't presume to tell me how I should think things should be.
You're right, and of course you never once said how things should be done.  All you do is rehash reality. You hold no opinions whatsoever. 
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