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SpiceUmUp
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Well semi-official anyway

Clipped from CNet News:

Thursday February 10 03:00 PM EST
Handspring to offer Visor in retail stores
Stephanie Miles, CNET News.com


In a move to expand sales beyond the Web, Handspring later this month plans to start selling its Visor handheld device in retail stores.

Since its debut, the Visor has only been available on Handspring's Web site. The company, founded by Palm Computing co-founders Donna Dubinsky and Jeff Hawkins more than a year ago, has struggled to keep up with demand for the product and has fought persistent technical problems with its e-commerce software.

Following a series of back orders and shipping delays, Handspring essentially missed out on its first holiday shopping season last year.

The line of devices from start-up Visor will be widely available by the last week of February, according to Handspring customer service representatives, handheld enthusiast Web sites and retail market research analysts.

On Internet newsgroups, some Handspring customers have reported that the devices will be available on Feb. 20 in retail stores, although a company representative would only confirm that the transition would happen "soon." It is still unclear which retailers plan to carry the Visor.

Handspring unveiled the Visor last September. Based on the Palm operating system software and including a "Springboard" expansion slot, the Visor was priced starting at $149--cheaper than the least expensive device from Palm.

"Look at how much time they've had to have the supply issues ironed out. They've had six months to get caught up with demand," said Brian Philips, a retail analyst with market research firm ARS. "Initially, it would have been nice if they could have done it by Christmas, but in retrospect it's better they didn't. It could have been a nightmare."

The move into retail distribution is an important one for the young company. Handspring is working to grab the attention of early adopters who were responsible for making Palm such a runaway success, while simultaneously working to mend its initially tarnished reputation for customer service and support.

Visor's entrance into the broader retail channel could have the potential to shake up the handheld market, analysts say.

Palm currently dominates all other handheld manufacturers in terms of market share, although Microsoft is still working to make some inroads with its device in the consumer market. But Handspring's retail move may spur Palm to sharpen its focus on the enterprise market, as well as boost both companies' interest in "smart" cell phones and wireless devices.

Palm has recently cut prices across its product line, partly in preparation for the expected introduction of its first color device at the end of the month. Yet analysts said the move was also an attempt to remain competitive with Handspring.

"Palm understands that if their licensees are a failure then Palm will not expand and become a dominant operating system. At the same time, it's a painful transition," Philips said. "They know that every sale of a Visor is going to mean most likely that Palm will lose a sale."

Microsoft-based handheld devices will be affected even more than Palm by Visor's move into retail, Philips noted.

"Visor's proven they're going to be popular--that's not a huge issue. Retailers are going to conclude they can get a lot of volume out of the Visor, and they might drop Windows CE shelf space."


The move also raises questions about whether Handspring has the necessary infrastructure to support broad channel distribution.

For instance, although many Springboard expansion slots have been announced, it is unclear how many of these add-on cartridges will be available with the Visor in retail stores. Although the company plans to offer different add-on functions like digital music players, digital cameras, global positioning systems and extra memory, many analysts say the Springboard expansion slot is the only noticeable difference between the Visor and the Palm.

"Stocking the Visor is one thing. Stocking all the Springboard modules is another," Philips said, predicting that only one or two modules will make it to stores, with the others being offered directly by the manufacturers or Handspring. "No retailer wants to stock 20 different Springboard modules."





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If they can bring it off...it will be a great thing for them because the Customer Service problems can get pushed off on the retailers (which has to work better than the present setup.

The only danger...it's one thing to have bad CS as it relates to individual consumers...but if they tick off a retailer...that will be devastating for them...

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THey should be ok with the retailers. I'm sure they haven't stopped producing Visors. If they can get < week turnaround time, I'm sure they have enough on hand to meet retail demand. Maybe not every colour they way they would like (ie blue, ice..) but they should be Ok.

Any word on the price of it? Like I stated in a previous post, $250 is still a pretty good deal, only 30 bucks more than the IIIx for 4 megs more memory, but $180 for the same thing the Palm IIIe is isn't quite going to cut it, especially when the main reason people were interested was the lower price compared to 3Com's.

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I thought that I mention that the price of the Visor ($180) is better than the Palm IIIe ($149) for me as...

1. I get the Pocketmirror Software included in the Visor, not included with the Palm IIIe, needed to sync my Visor with MS Outlook... ($40 Value)

2. The Visor works faster than the Palm IIIe and IIIx... www.pencomputing.com shows that the benchmarks of the Palm vs. Visor...

3. The enhanced apps such as "Datebook+" and "Calculater" makes a big difference. The Datebook+ software has a value of $20...

I thought people should still know that the Visor is a great deal at $180 and will be an unbeatable deal when the price goes down...

Thanks!

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People don't really know that.

The "educated" Palm/Visor buyer wouldn't buy the IIIe/Standard Visor in the first place. They'll know the value of the extra memory.

THe base consumer, what they're shooting at with the lower models, doesn't know that the Outlook tool is worth $40 and might not even use outlook at all. Datebook+ What's the difference?

It'll come down to one is gray, one is black and they both have 2 megs of ram. One is 150 and one is 180. That is pretty much the base consumer thought process and I'm willing to bet they'll go for the Palm IIIe.

Just my opinion

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Mainstream consumers will choose the Palm IIIe (SE) for another reason...color cases. Handspring made a serious mistake by making color choice available only on the deluxe model. Low end consumers who want that choice but don't want to pay $250 will definitely choose the Palm IIIe se over the Visor, if for no other reason than to get their PDA in Blue, Green, or Orange.

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Visor is now listed on the store inventory as incoming at CompUSA. I don't know what the actual due date is but I will keep everyone posted. Retail pricing looks to be the same as the website pricing. Also looks like they will carry the full line of HS add ons.

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Where did you find it on their web site? I just looked at the product section and I didn't see anything.

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The info came from the instore stock computer.

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Originally posted by DFibber:
Visor is now listed on the store inventory as incoming at CompUSA.... Also looks like they will carry the full line of HS add ons.



modem too?

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any news ?

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I work at CompUSA also. Yes, we will be getting the modem, along with all other handspring products. (ie, cases, stylus, etc.) One interesting thing though, is that we won't be getting the 149.99 version. Only Visors that come with cradles. Also, you may be interested to know that the Palm IIIc is not in the computer system. So, I would assume that we won't be getting it untill March at the earliest. Hopefully the visors will be here soon though. If you have any other questions, just ask, and hopefully I can answer them.
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Thanks for the info, what I want to know is when will CompUSA have the Visor?

Will it be the 20th (tomorrow)?

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I work at CompUSA also. Yes, we will be getting the modem, along with all other handspring products. (ie, cases, stylus, etc.) One interesting thing though, is that we won't be getting the 149.99 version. Only Visors that come with cradles. Also, you may be interested to know that the Palm IIIc is not in the computer system. So, I would assume that we won't be getting it untill March at the earliest. Hopefully the visors will be here soon though. If you have any other questions, just ask, and hopefully I can answer them.
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does anybody know who else will be carrying the Visor and it's accessories besides CompUSA?? I've heard rumours but nothing concrete. I guess without an official announcement from Handspring, it's ALL rumours eh?

Update: went to CompUSA and the Visor Deluxe is on their computer system. However, there were no modules! I had the guy look up 'handspring' (that's when the visors came up), 'springboard', 'modules' and nothing came up.

i could really use that modem module soon....

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CompUSA WILL be getting the modem, and other accesories. Hoser, if you go into compUSA again, ask them to look up HSPNG. This will bring up all of Handsprings products. I have seen it my self. And, we wont be getting them on the 20th. Probably at least another week, so just be patient.
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