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Ruprect
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Ok, this may be a dumb question, but I'm a little confused. When the Visor/Visor DLX reports available memory in the Info screen, that's DRAM we're talking about, i.e. volatile.

How does the Visor (or Palm for that matter) shut down? I'm thinking that the hard key power button doesn't actually shut the unit off, or you'd lose all your apps and data, right? Same with soft and hard resets too, I guess.

So the question is, how long does one have when you remove the AAA batteries during replacement before the unit loses everything? Also, it would be unwise to short the battery terminal leads during replacement.

Am I wrong?

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So the question is, how long does one have when you remove the AAA batteries during replacement before the unit loses everything? Also, it would be unwise to short the battery terminal leads during replacement.


The Visor doesn't really shut off completely.. it basically goes to sleep when it's powered off manually or by the auto-off feature. I believe the OS refreshes the RAM approximately once per minute to keep the data safe.

According to Handspring, the official answer is on time for battery changes is approximately one minute. In reality, it all depends... there's a capacitor that stores residual power to keep the memory "alive" during a battery change. The length of time this supplies power is completely variable from one unit to another. As for shorting the terminals, it would be just like any other electronic gizmo... probably not a good idea .

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I heard someware that you could leave your Palm batt-less for up to 15 min before its totaly dead.

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The most I went for without betteries in my Visor was about 20 minutes while I ran around the house frantically looking for AAA battereies. All of my data was there, but I decided that it was time to get a back-up module before I did that again.

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I heard someware that you could leave your Palm batt-less for up to 15 min before its totaly dead.

I believe that what Handspring is saying is that they will guarantee one minute of battery-less power. More may be possible, but it is at your own risk.

If you are trying to totally erase everything on your Visor (the super-duper hard reset), most FAQs I've read said to leave the batteries out for an hour, just to be sure.

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battery change time and backup module

I always have two batteries out of the package ready to install before opening the battery compartment. BUT, I came across a backup module at Staples for $19.00 and bought it on the spot. It is amazing the piece of mind that affords me! That is the true difference between the palm and visor.

Go Visor!

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Cool FYI

FYI -- "Dead" batteries can be left in the Visor for quite a while as you search frantically for a replacement set. You can get a few hours of "stand-by" with batteries that do not have enough juice left to power the unit fully. Just don;t turn it on until you replace the batteries.

Also remember that the capacitor that stores the power until the batteries is replaced can be "indercharged" if you do this technique. Change'em quick! :-)

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