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OK, I wanted to get some feedback on this one. I've got a Prism and am debating whether or not to go for the m505. I know about the screen differences.. I'm just wondering about the memory expansion differences.

1. Palm SD/MMC - from the reviews that I've read, it sounds like you can run applications right off the memory card. Apparently, there's a slight delay when doing that.. maybe 5 seconds or so.

2. Memplug - can't run directly from the memory card (aside from CSpotRun); needs less juice than CF Adapter, but runs slower.

3. CF Adapter - can't directly run apps either; needs more juice, but is faster than Memplug.

Am I missing anything here?

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If you've got no compelling interest in Springboard technology, the m505 might be right for you. The one thing that would keep me from jumping ship is that I love the way my eye2 module fits with the visor. It's the most integrated pda/camera combo around.

I have the MemPlug, and it's well designed and highly functional, but I think it's too slow to ever really have satisfactory auto-copy-and-run capability, like TRG's AutoCF, or MSMount, or even the hinted-at VFS support for CF adapters.

Keep an eye on CF adapter development though. Flash adapter drivers are improving by leaps and bounds, and they've got a working CF adapter-enabled CSpotRun from what I've read. As I've posted before, their lack of a true Springboard CF adapter is still their greatest impediment to becoming the leading Springboard memory solution.

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Keep an eye on CF adapter development though. Flash adapter drivers are improving by leaps and bounds, and they've got a working CF adapter-enabled CSpotRun from what I've read. As I've posted before, their lack of a true Springboard CF adapter is still their greatest impediment to becoming the leading Springboard memory solution.

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What you have missed!

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Am I missing anything here?

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Word I'm getting from the manufacturer is that a "plug-and-play" CF adapter could start shipping in less than two weeks. It will include the standard FAFileMover suite of apps which now includes a version of CSpotRun that reads doc files directly off the CF card. (Current FlashAdapter owners can get a "development" snapshot of this software now from Kopsis' website).

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Kopsis is working hard to give FlashAdapter users similar capabilities and we hope to be able to officially announce some exciting new developments early next month.

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Ooooh, Dave, you're such a tease

Two weeks?! We don't know who the manufacturer is and we can't order one, but it could be ready in two weeks?!

As usual, thanks for the hard work and the up-to-date scoop.

Anomaly . . . Impatiently waiting, so he can buy a CF Adapter already

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Originally posted by dkessler
It will include the standard FAFileMover suite of apps which now includes a version of CSpotRun that reads doc files directly off the CF card. (Current FlashAdapter owners can get a "development" snapshot of this software now from Kopsis' website).

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More details on this? This is killer! Couldn't find it on your website, still waiting on registration, can hardly remember to keep breathing I want this so bad....

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Ooooh, Dave, you're such a tease

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Trust me, not being able to disclose the details is driving me crazy too

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Just dl'ed the beta with the CSpotRun plug in: AWESOME.

I'm looking forward to the time when we won't have to open FAFileMover to access the CF card docs (i.e. find a way for CSpot to access the FaLib directly...???)..

All Hail Kopsis!

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Originally posted by dietrichbohn
I'm looking forward to the time when we won't have to open FAFileMover to access the CF card docs (i.e. find a way for CSpot to access the FaLib directly...???).

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Actually, CSR does access FALib directly. But it takes a lot of code to be able to browse through subdirectories and let users select a file. MemPlug initally got around this by requiring that all docs be kept in the same directory. I didn't like that answer and since all the code to browse the CF card is already in FAFileMover, it seems logical to just use it. That means less code added to CSpotRun and less RAM wasted on something that another app already does. And since saving RAM is the whole purpose of a CF adapter, leveraging FAFileMover is really a good solution

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curiousity about release of VFS compatability

Dave,

Just curious have you gotten ahold of the VFS system extensions yet. Is it really possible to add those to the Handspring system 3.5? Will they run as a hackmaster extension or will they just be incorporated into FAFilemover? I can't WAIT to try this out.......if you need any assistance please let me know. Thanks for your work on this & enjoy your time in Sweden.

Josh

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Re: curiousity about release of VFS compatability

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Originally posted by josher75
Just curious have you gotten ahold of the VFS system extensions yet. Is it really possible to add those to the Handspring system 3.5?

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My question would be about distribution. Will it be available from anyone besides PalmGear?

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MemPlug go retail!

I heard that MemPlug will soon be available in several major retail stores like COMPUSA, STAPLES ....

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Today is the 19th, which means tomorrow Palmgear ships the memplug...

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Dave, would you consider sending a preview module to Visorcentral soon? So that when it is released, we have the review all ready? People would love it! contact marcus with detials.. not me.. I'm just a volunteer..

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MemPlug AutoCF

MemPlug is now beta testing its version of AutoCF. What is it? It allows direct run of applications stored on the memory card. It is like having a 128MB Handspring Springboard Flash module if you use MemPlug + 128MB SmartMedia Card on your Visor. It is not direct copy to the internal ram like Palm 500 or 505. The apps actually run on the memory card!
MemPlug is way ahead in the ballgame.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dkessler






As for the m50X ability to run apps off the SD card, what it really does is incorporates an "auto mover" into the app launcher. Apps on the SD card show up in the launcher and tapping thier icon makes the launcher copy them to RAM and then execute them (and delete them when they exit). Keep in mind that this only works in the standard app launcher.


I just want to add to this, that this means you can only use apps/databases that are at a max 8MB, right? So if you have say a 64MB SD card, you can't have something like a 64MB "all in one" app, right?

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The MemPlug 'AutoCF' (I don't know the offical name) is NOT LIKE Palm 500 and 505.
For example: You can actually have a 11MB TomeRaider Dictionary running on your Visor Solo (only 2MB internal memory). The TR app and the dictionary databases all resides on the memory card. However, you can see the TR icon at the launcher. Get the idea.

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Originally posted by philip
The MemPlug 'AutoCF' (I don't know the offical name) is NOT LIKE Palm 500 and 505.
For example: You can actually have a 11MB TomeRaider Dictionary running on your Visor Solo (only 2MB internal memory). The TR app and the dictionary databases all resides on the memory card. However, you can see the TR icon at the launcher. Get the idea.

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