Registered: Apr 2000
Location:
Posts: 266

FYI-

I was selling my left over WriteRights on eBay, and Mr. Warman contacted them claiming I am infringing on his copyright, trademark or other rights.

So, to Mr. Warman......this items will be continued to be listed by me on ebay for sale. I am asking you to please bring it on....I have the time and the money to make sure you never bother another person again with your BS and paranoid attitude.

Until then,
Ryan Clayton
[email protected]

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Registered: Nov 1999
Location:
Posts: 341

Fantastic Ryan! Run this wanker into the ground. If he spent 1/100th the time and effort as your site does he could worry less about 'his' product and more about counting the money.

Mike

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 10

yeah! give him some of his own medicine! you bought the writerights yourself, and according to mr. man of war, writeright already has paid the commission for his "patent". why would you have to pay the commission a second time for his crap product anyways? down with mr. man of war!

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Metro Station, Hollywood and Highland
Posts: 1018

Actually, Concept Kitchen pays Mr. Warman nothing. I asked him on the Better Screen Protectors thread if CK was a licensee of his. Rather than answer the question honestly ("No"), he suggested I contact them. So I called his bluff and emailed the company. Their response:

Re: Warman Patent Claims

Recently you contacted us asking about allegations you have read or seen concerning a patent owned by William Warman. We believe Mr. Warman�s verbal attacks on this company are unfair and illegal. We have so informed Mr. Warman, which may be why he stopped writing to us and our vendors. Rest assured, after we first heard from Mr. Warman in 1998, we hired experienced patent attorneys to evaluate his patent and his demand for exorbitant licensing fees. (Those fees, by the way, would more than double the price of our products.) We have advised Mr. Warman of the advice given by our patent attorneys, including the conclusion that his patent is not valid. The attorneys have further explained to Mr. Warman that this company has �intervening rights� because our product was designed and sold before Mr. Warman obtained his reissue patent. For that additional reason, there is no legal requirement that the company take a license under the patent. Concept Kitchen has always respected the legal rights of others, including intellectual property rights. We will continue to do so in the future. However, we will not pay what amounts to intellectual property ransom. If you have any further questions about this matter, please feel free to contact me. Thanks for taking the time to contact us. We appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Tim Nugent
Customer Service Manager
Concept Kitchen

Since rclayton is reselling Concept Kitchen's product, Mr. Warman needs to take his legal threat up with Concept Kitchen. Since I posted the above email on the other thread, Mr. Warman has posted replies to other people's comments, but has studiously avoided discussing CK, the one company that has the resources to stand up to his patent extortion. I believe that Warman makes his money not by prevailing in litigation, but in intimidating people into thinking that they can't afford to fight him in court.

By the way, rclayton, I can forward to the email directly if you like, and you can include it in your reply to his email. And bravo to you for taking a stand.


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Registered: Nov 1999
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 195

Another voice of support, rclayton, let's see what he does when someone calls his bluff!

Registered: Apr 2000
Location:
Posts: 266

GameBoy-

I already got that from you previous post and have contacted eBay and Concept Kitchen regarding it, as well as my lawyer.....

Thanks
Ryan

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 10

so if concept kitchen doesn't have to pay a royalty for their product, why would you have to? that doesn't make in sanse. mr. warman is a bs-er

Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1683

Punk:

It's really a game of who has the bigger lawyer. Concept Kitchen doesn't need to pay the royalty fee, because the patent (at least according to their lawyer) is frivilous. Unfortunately, you need a decent lawyer to back that claim. Most people that can't afford his license of $5000 can't really afford a lawyer, either.

So...right or wrong, they loose. Mr. Inventor wins by default.

A dirty way to play the game, indeed. Unfortunately, this is usually how the game is played in this country. Amazon.com's patent on one-click ordering is also quite frivilous...its doubtful that it would hold up in court. Unfortunately, few people would have the money to take Amazon to court if it Amazon were ever to enforce its patent. They'd win by default.

I suppose that I should mention that I am NOT a lawyer and to take my lesson on patent law as just my somewhat educated opinion.

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Registered: Apr 2000
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 198

Rclayton - We're all behind you. Keep us updated and let us know what we can do, if anything, to help you.

Warman's position is (as usual) completely laughable. You're selling Concept Kitchen's product second hand, and he attacks you as a "competitor" of his.

If the country ran as Mr. Warman thinks it should, I wouldn't be able to sell my Chevy without my local dealership suing my boodie off.

Mr. Warman - GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

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