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Celchu19
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I aggree, the Visor phone looks great I'd realy like to have one and I think that my income may just allow it. Another very good upside to it is that the CDMA module which is virtualy the same (but I doubt that SMS is included) may be priced quite a bit cheeper. a definate up side.

After I buy My miniJam I intend to buy one of three things- an MMC card, a new visor (probly the Platnium if it turns out to be good, and if it dosent then I won't upgrade) or one of the cell phone modules.

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Originally posted by zero
{...}The one thing that would make sense to me though would be to have a solution (wired or wireless) that allowed you to interface with your current cell phone and send a phone number from your Visor address book to the phone to dial. As I see it cell phones have a great form factor for a phone, the Visor has great form factor for a PDA. Why not marry the two without sacrificing form? Just a though, but I believe it to a be a good one.


Well, that's exactly the idea behind Bluetooth type technology. That's why I'm not exactly paying too much attention to the hype at the moment. Hopefully Q1 next year, there will be Bluetooth springboards and phones available to do a comparison of functionality. That's about the timeframe I'd be looking at a new cellphone anyway.

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Mark Squires
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Re: Re: VisorPhone vs. Minstrel S

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lacherclp
I think everyone's missing some big points when considering using the VisorPhone to do dial-up internet access.



I was thinking about this in connection with active link.
Apparently, VisorPHone has a messaging feature. How wired do I need to be? A phone has a lot more versatility than email if voicemail messages show up in print--although for sure, some things are not replaceable. Perhaps I don't understand the messaging utility well enough.

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At the time though I thought they were a bit pricey. I waited and bought one when the price came down. Now I'm a big fan. I look at the Visor phone in the same fashion, I think it has a usefule purpose, but the price just isn't right, at least for me, yet.


I think the people who are focusing on the high price of the VisorPhone are missing a piece of the picture. The VisorPhone doesn't just replace a cellphone but it also replaces a wireless modem. So if you were planning to have a cell phone AND a wireless modem/module for your Visor, now you'll only need one account instead of two. If you figure $40 a month for each account, the VisorPhone will pay for itself in 7-8 months (not to mention saving the cost of the wireless module). Plus you get to carry around just one device instead of two, and all the other advantages of the VisorPhone like using your Address Book to dial calls.

I can't wait for them to announce the calling plans so I can order a VisorPhone (or AirPrime), although I'm still wrestling with the GSM vs. CDMA question. I'm very happy with my current Verizon CDMA coverage, and I'm leery about switching to VoiceStream (which is the East Coast GSM provider). And while SMS sounds cool, it only works with other GSM phones, right? Not that many people use GSM in this country yet. What good is it if there's no one to send messages to?

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Re: Re: belt clip and visorphone

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as for carrying around a clunk device strapped to your hip - you already do this with a normal cell phone so whats the big deal about a visor and cell module?


I'll wager that greenmonk, like me, does not "already" use a belt clip for his cell phone. I keep my phone and Visor in my pockets (front and back). There is a minority of people out there that find wearing gadgets on the hip a little tacky. That'll probably become a thing of the past, just as pocketwatches took a back seat to wristwatches. But for now, I wish someone would come up with a better solution to carrying these things than belt clips.



I have recently gotten the E-Holster which is similar to a shoulder holster for a handgun. It allow you to carry a cell phone and Visor under your arms. It is EXCELENT when wearing a suit or sport coat as your profile remains without the bulkyness of having a cell phone on your hip and the Visor in your jacket pocket. eholster.com is where you can view this option. I think it might work with the visorphone also.

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albert
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I really don't see any need buying an extra GSM module
I'm right now using my simens s3568i with visor
using Ir Port to communicate.
The cell phone is acting like a wireless modem and GSMTools does the phone book sync & SMS message sending .

Visor is still too big as a mobile phone.


[Edited by albert on 10-19-2000 at 12:13 PM]

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yucca
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Question Re: Visor is still too big as a mobile phone

You're kidding, right? How is Visor + Cellphone smaller and less cumbersome than Visor + Cellphone SBM?

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Question Frequency confusion

The FAQ for the VisorPhone states that

> with Visor Solo, Visor, or Visor Deluxe, it operates in a frequency band used only in North America.

which suggests it's using the 1900MHz frequency band. It implies that future Visor products may allow it to be used on other bands, and that there will be a separate version for the European/Asian market, where GSM is run on 900MHz and 1800MHz.

The Handspring newsletter that arrived in my mailbox says that if you buy the phone with a Prism or Platinum

> you'll be able to use your VisorPhone to make calls outside the U.S., too.
> In fact, you'll be able to roam in any country that has a GSM network.

Now, if that's true, then it means that the module must work on at least GSM 900MHz, which was the original GSM frequency band, and very probably on 1800MHz too.

So, what is it that's stopping the module from working on all those bands with a current Visor model? I really can't think of a logical explanation - it's just a frequency change, and surely all the RF circuitry is in the module. Maybe present Visor models are too susceptible to interference from GSM 900/1800?

Either the comment in the newletter is misleading - since you can't roam outside the US/Canada without a module that uses standard GSM frequencies - or there's something odd in VisorPhone.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?

Nigel.

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Re: Frequency confusion

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The FAQ for the VisorPhone states that
So, what is it that's stopping the module from working on all those bands with a current Visor model? I really can't think of a logical explanation - it's just a frequency change, and surely all the RF circuitry is in the module. Maybe present Visor models are too susceptible to interference from GSM 900/1800?

Either the comment in the newletter is misleading - since you can't roam outside the US/Canada without a module that uses standard GSM frequencies - or there's something odd in VisorPhone.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?



That's really interesting...maybe it's related to the shielding issue with the Glenayre pager. Maybe the newer models have additional shielding. I'm not sure why there would be more interference from the GSM 900/1800 than the 1900 though.

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