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Upgrading from VDX to Platinum

I decided on my last hoorah of my summer spending spree (please don't tell my parents), I would get a Visor Platinum. It was within my price range and had the features I wanted, like having OS 3.5. So my question is, what is a good step-by-step procedure for upgrading from one visor to the other. I have a MemPlug SM with a current backup, an eyemodule2, and an 8MB memory module. Also most of my programs are on the SMC. What would I need to do to go about upgrading.

Thanks,

Jason

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Jason,
Wow, that's a heck of a purchase to slip past your parents! (Next time go for the Prism and see if they will notice!)

Good Luck!

Drew

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I got a Platinum when my VDX crashed. I put in my backup module and restored the info. No problems at all.

I saw something about having to put the name in the unit before using the Memplug backup, but that has not been my experience. I once use the Memplug restore without any set up. There was a warning about the name not being correct, but I hit the button to bypass and it worked fine.

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Okay, so just putting in MemPlug SM and restoring from backup should work fine? Does that cause any problems during syching?

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Originally posted by volcanopele
Okay, so just putting in MemPlug SM and restoring from backup should work fine? Does that cause any problems during syching?

Jason

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I have read in other threads that people have had problems upgrading from one OS to the other when using a backup module or the MemPlug SM. Something about how the preferences are stored differently and what not. Would it be okay then to delete the system files in the backup directory on my SMC and then restore on the Platinum? If so, what are these system files? I know about saved preferences, and I don't backup unsaved preferences.

Jason

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I believe that if you restore from the backup module or the MP it should look the same to the desktop. I could be wrong, but I do not believe the desktop looks at the OS. The only time I had a long sync was when I synced after a hard reset w/o using the backup module. If I synced after using the backup, it was just like any other sync.

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Originally posted by volcanopele
I have read in other threads that people have had problems upgrading from one OS to the other when using a backup module or the MemPlug SM. Something about how the preferences are stored differently and what not. Would it be okay then to delete the system files in the backup directory on my SMC and then restore on the Platinum? If so, what are these system files? I know about saved preferences, and I don't backup unsaved preferences.

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I would clean out everything in the backup directory first. Then, do a warm reset (holding the up scroll button), and then delete any handspring patches you've installed (using Z'Catalog) & disable all hacks. Do a soft reset and then a complete, clean backup on your SMC. Then restore on the VPL, if possible w/out getting rid of the VDX until you're sure it works.

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...Finally, if you can't keep your VDX around when monkeying with the VPL, maybe spend some time making sure you've got stuff backed up to the SMC or your desktop, just for kicks.

good luck!

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Originally posted by volcanopele
Thanks for the help. What files should I look for while in Z'Catalog so that I can delete the patches?

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Thanks for the help. What files should I look for while in Z'Catalog so that I can delete the patches?

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Originally posted by imabug
Look for a file named HSExtensions. That will be the patch file.

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Just wanted to post that everything worked fine. Thank you very much for the help. The only program that had trouble was WordSmith. Since there was an update today I didn't mind deleting it and reinstalling it and my docs. Plus, I just got my PiDirect Registration Code. Yeah!!!!!! Wonderful. Fantastic. All is good with the world. I am so happy I am going to try to cut down a tree with a herring.

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I am so happy I am going to try to cut down a tree with a herring.

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Originally posted by volcanopele
Okay, so just putting in MemPlug SM and restoring from backup should work fine? Does that cause any problems during syching?

Jason

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You are right, I probably was lucky. But following a very systematic procedure helped to minimize any problems. Again, the only program that had problems was WordSmith. I started it up and I kept getting a fatal exception. I ended up deleteing all my WordSmith files and fonts and then reinstalling them from the computer. There was an update yesterday so I didn't really mind doing that. Plus, I had to delete my eyemodule2 stuff because I had backed up the 3.1 version and it would run on Platinum. So I deleted that, put back in the eyemodule2 and it installed the 3.5 version of the program. Luckily I didn't have many images installed at the time but it was still annoying. Other than those two minor problems, the upgrade went find. Now I just need to find a buyer for the VDX.

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I think that for every one person that has an upgrade go haywire there are three that have it go fine and don't post. I'm glad everything worked out for you, Volcano. I should have known about the eyemod2, b/c I had the same thing with the eyemod1. To be honest, I'm surprised the eyemod2 didn't have compatible software already in flash for you!

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...Plus, I had to delete my eyemodule2 stuff because I had backed up the 3.1 version and it would run on Platinum. So I deleted that, put back in the eyemodule2 and it installed the 3.5 version of the program. Luckily I didn't have many images installed at the time but it was still annoying...

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Actually I found this out the other day by mistake. When you insert the eye2 module, it actually installs both versions of the software, one for 3.1 and one for 3.5. But what it does, it checks your system to see which OS you are running then turns on the hide attribute (bit) on the other version. So if you insert into your PLTM, both 3.1 and 3.5 eye2 software is installed but the 3.1 is hidden. When you pull the module out the 3.1 version is deleted. Somehow the other day I had 2 icons for eye2 s/w. When I went to open one it said that the version was only compatible with 3.1. I closed it and went into the other program and it worked just fine. When I pulled the module out, the 3.1 icon went away. I don't how it happen or why (just a glitch I guess) but I thought that was interesting....

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I actually have three icons Apparently one is the program that stays permanently on the Visor and the other two are always on the module. Apparently those are the two versions of the software for 3.1 and 3.5. I have noticed a bit of a difference in the appearance of some of the programs I run since moving over to Platinum and all are good. They look a lot better.

But the one thing I am really happy about is PiDirect. Now that I have VPL, I can run it now. It is much faster in loading the apps in Launcher III (I decided to keep it even though I don't really need it anymore) than when I used Launcher III to load to programs off the SMC. Also the programs load a lot faster than before. All in all, money well spent.