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kalaban
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John:

As a current Visor owner and user, I have every right to post my opinions as you do. Just because you are dedicated to PALM OS doesn't mean everyone else is.

Even after I get my pocket pc, I will continue to scan the boards as there is alot of information and to see what is happening.

What I can't understand is why people like your self feel the need to question why someone might be posting on this board. Is it exclusive to you?

Last time I checked, I din't see your name as moderator or creator. Until then, to each thier own.



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Talking

Palm should work on porting the PALM OS to run on the Compaq IPAQ and Jornado devices. Then we have some choices!

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John Nowak
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quote:
Originally posted by kalaban
John:

Even after I get my pocket pc, I will continue to scan the boards as there is alot of information and to see what is happening.




But why should it interest you? And how does posting an ad for iPaq get you more information?

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John:

What I can't understand is why people like your self feel the need to question why someone might be posting on this board.




Fair enough. I'll answer your question.

I feel absolutely no desire to go on an Amiga board and tell them that I think it's silly to champion a system that hasn't been supported for years. I would consider this weird behavior. If I were to go to an Amiga board, it would be because I'd like to hear about their experiences with their systems; and I don't see how I would 'get information' by saying something like,

"Hi, I'm buying a Sony Vaio running Windows 2000, and I think you should all think about buying one too!"

Because I would consider that patronizing at best.

I'm curious to know why you posted a thick slice of iPaq FUD -- an ad for a system you do not even own yet -- because the only motives I can think of are that either 1) you work for Microsoft or 2) you genuinely think you're saying something we don't all know already.

(ADDED) And incidentally, I do not believe that you work for Microsoft, nor do I think you're unaware of the fact we've seen the same numbers you've quoted a million times. So why post it?


[Edited by John Nowak on 10-20-2000 at 11:25 PM]

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Fair enough. I'll answer your question.

I feel absolutely no desire to go on an Amiga board and tell them that I think it's silly to champion a system that hasn't been supported for years. I would consider this weird behavior. If I were to go to an Amiga board, it would be because I'd like to hear about their experiences with their systems; and I don't see how I would 'get information' by saying something like,

"Hi, I'm buying a Sony Vaio running Windows 2000, and I think you should all think about buying one too!"

Because I would consider that patronizing at best.

I'm curious to know why you posted a thick slice of iPaq FUD -- an ad for a system you do not even own yet -- because the only motives I can think of are that either 1) you work for Microsoft or 2) you genuinely think you're saying something we don't all know already.

(ADDED) And incidentally, I do not believe that you work for Microsoft, nor do I think you're unaware of the fact we've seen the same numbers you've quoted a million times. So why post it?


[Edited by John Nowak on 10-20-2000 at 11:25 PM] [/B][/QUOTE]


I choose to continue reading these boards becuase I can and I want to.

Although I don't work for Microsoft, I do work with people that feel the need to state an opinion merely for the sake of stating it -- for self indulging reasons.

I know there are many new Visor users who simply don't know there are choices and I used to be one of them. I have gleaned valuable information from visorcentral and am stating an opinion, which is what these boards encourage. When James (or another moderator) tells me what I'm doing is inappropriate, I will stop ( and so would many others).

Just like anyone else, you have the choice to not read, not agree or not respond to it.

I have read many posts that make me angry or I strongly disagree with, but I don't feel the need to act on impulse and attack it or the person for expressing an opinion. I simply move on - as you should.

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quote:
Originally posted by kalaban

Although I don't work for Microsoft, I do work with people that feel the need to state an opinion merely for the sake of stating it -- for self indulging reasons.



Excuse me, but you're the one who posted what ammounted to an advertisement for the iPaq on a Visor board.

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Originally posted by kalaban


I know there are many new Visor users who simply don't know there are choices and I used to be one of them.




quote:
Originally posted by kalaban

I have gleaned valuable information from visorcentral and am stating an opinion, which is what these boards encourage.



Fair enough. Are you going to back up your opinions or support them in any way? I'm still waiting for an explanation of "the many shortcomings of editing documents." I know there are several, and I'm curious to know if you are aware of any others.

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Originally posted by kalaban


When James (or another moderator) tells me what I'm doing is inappropriate, I will stop ( and so would many others).



That's good -- so would I.

quote:
Originally posted by kalaban


Just like anyone else, you have the choice to not read, not agree or not respond to it.



Sure. You have the right to post an iPaq ad on the board; I have the right to point out that much of the information you give is misleading. Freedom of expression is a wonderful thing.

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I have read many posts that make me angry or I strongly disagree with, but I don't feel the need to act on impulse and attack it or the person for expressing an opinion. I simply move on - as you should.




Now now -- I'm requesting clarification of your original post.

Were you aware that the iPaq's MP3 player skips when you toggle to another application?

Were you aware there are roughly 7,000 software titles available on PalmGear and about 150 on PocketGear?

Have you ever noticed that WinCE enthusiasts seem to be unable to point to any concrete functionality WinCE offers which the Palm does not? Personally, I'm aware of three: a much better screen, the ability to open email attachments (which may or may not be offered for the Palm OS now), and the essential ability to play Flight Simulator during boring meetings.

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kalaban,

Sorry, but I couldn't help but point this out:

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If you go with the ipaq does this mean that you will not be cool anymore?

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Thumbs up Upgrade Price

I would make the upgrade if the cost of doing it was 100. In fact, I do it today.

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Angry Handspring's Lack of Response

I believe Handspring has just missed an opportunity. I asked about the possibility of an upgrade path, tading in your VDx for a more powerful model.

Many companies are doing it, such as AT&T wireless, etc.

Here's is Handspring's response:

"Thank you for your email. We are not implementing a trade-in/upgrade program. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you have further questions, please reply to this email.

Thank you,
Handspring CustomerCare"

BAD IDEA! I hope someone sends these to Handspring. They may have just lost me as a customer when it's time to reinvest the money in PDA technology!

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Angry Re: Handspring's Lack of Response

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BAD IDEA! I hope someone sends these to Handspring. They may have just lost me as a customer when it's time to reinvest the money in PDA technology!


Well, then I guess Palm Computing, HP, Casio, and Compaq, TRGPro, and Sharp just lost you as a customer too... they don't offer trade-ins or upgrades either.

With the exception of the bundled internet access 'lease' type deals offered by Gateway and a few other companies, I don't know of any PC manufacturers that let you trade in last year's PIII 450 for this year's PIII 900... why is Handspring (or any PDA maker) expected to be different? I'm not contesting peoples' right to this opinion; I just don't understand it. I'll say it again... would I trade up if such an option were available? Probably. It would get a Prism into my hot little hands a few months sooner than anticipated. Am I entitled to such a program just because I'd like to trade up? No.

And BTW, why did you title your post 'Lack of response'? Handspring replied to you, it just so happens that you didn't like the reply.. not the same thing.

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Many companies are doing it, such as AT&T wireless, etc.



No they aren't. They're doing the "pay us $40 a month and we'll pretend to give you a deal on a phone" sales pitch. There is no reason for Handspring TO give out upgrade prices. No one else does (does Palm? Compaq?). Besides, it's not very feasible.

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BAD IDEA! I hope someone sends these to Handspring.



Sends WHAT to Handspring? What are you talking about?

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quote:
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Well, then I guess Palm Computing, HP, Casio, and Compaq, TRGPro, and Sharp just lost you as a customer too... they don't offer trade-ins or upgrades either
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My point exactly.

Just to throw my 2 cents to the hundreds of dollars floating around in this thread already, isn't the question rather obvious? Who wouldn't take a discount for anything? But to answer the question, no. I'm keeping both my vDx and my new prism. Emotional attachment's a *****.

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Smile Okay, I give...

Alright, so it's a bad idea.

So, let's all go out and spend full price the next time we need to upgrade Microsoft Office, PhotoShop, or some other pricey software package. Just forget about that initial investment.

I just think it would be a good marketing gesture. I don't want something for nothing.

Nokia did it for its customers, offering a small rebate for its current customers. The money was small, but the idea helps breed loyalty.

Technology companies should try new ways to help hold their cutomers. Is it any wonder many people don't want to invest their money, because "... the technology will be too old in a month..."

I'll fork out the cash for upgrades, because I enjoy the toys. But there is nothing wrong with the original idea.

Those of you who agree, write Handspring. Those who don't, ummmm, don't

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There's nothing wrong with the idea, but there is a big difference between calmly stating an idea once on a public forum (which most users read more than one post and are going to get your idea) than posting the same idea over and over and over and over and over swearing you'll never buy Handspring products because they're obviously not supporting their customers. I'm not advocating a restriction of our 1st ammendment rights, I'm merely asking people to think things through before they fume.

P.S. I think it's rather obvious reading this thread that most everyone would think rather well of Handspring to offer a trade-in program, but they are by no means obligated to do so in order to keep their customer base. All they have to do is make the best product at the best price.

[Edited by dick-richardson on 10-23-2000 at 12:28 PM]

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bnjacobs:

I think your idea is OK, but you can't compare it to Software or Phone companies.

Companies can offer software upgrades at lower prices because there isn't the overhead of manufacturing a physical product. Wireless companies can give you free phones...you're paying them every month.

Now, maybe that's the approach a PDA company could take. You pay $25 (or whatever) a month and you get the latest, greatest PDA and wireless service package every year.

These plans appeal to people, but, in reality, you tend not to save any money at all...you are just stretching out the payments.

Ultimately, Handspring doesn't need to offer this, because they have a great product at a great price. Period. It's simple business. Why give something away for free when people are more than willing to pay for it.

Finally, I don't LIKE this mentality (and I mean this broadly, not specifically toward you, bnjacobs). US society is already INCREDIBLY wasteful. We consume more products per capita than any country in the world four-times over. Be happy with your PDA. Don't be in such a hurry to throw it away. That '96 car of yours still runs fine. You DON'T need new tennis shoes every 4 months, the cell phone you have is just fine, etc. etc. (there's my little moral speech for the day )

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Thumbs up $100 Rebate on Prism/Platinum

Guys just to let you know that today I called OmniSky and they suprised me with a great offer. I am considering OmniSky wireless service for my VDX and they told me that the SpringBoard Module they sell works only on the Prism/Platinum handhelds. To my surprise they also informed me that if I get a new Prism/Platinum they will send me a check for $100 if I buy their modem within the next 30 days of the purchase of the handheld. This $100 rebate is in addition to the $200 rebate they currently offer for the wireless modem and service holiday bundle.

Today I had the opportunity to use the OmniSky service in a Palm V device from a friend and I can tell you that is awesome!!! I was chatting with my Yahoo Messanger friends wirelessly from a restaurant.

Hope this helps.

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