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MacLevin
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Question

Has anyone upgraded to OS 9.1? How does it affect your synching? Does it make any differences. I know that the USB software is upgraded.

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dick-richardson
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My iMac shipped with OS 9.1 and I have had no problems. If you start having some after you install 9.1 then reinstall Palm Desktop.

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MacLevin
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When did you get your iMac? 9.1 was just released on 1/09.

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MacLevin
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I loaded OS 9.1 on my iMac this weekend. Previously, I could not synch with my Visor; I was getting the error that a connection failure had occured (or something close to that). After loading 9.1 - it synched beautifuly!

About my setup (incase you have a similar problem synching):
iMac DV 400Mhz, 256Mb RAM, PalmDesktop 2.6.1 (I think that is the latest; I may be wrong)

USB Devices
Port 1, iMac: Apple Keyboard
Port 2, iMac: Kensington VideoCam
Port 1, Keyboard: 4-Port D-Link USB hub (powered)
Port 2, Keyboard: Apple USB mouse (hockey puck)
Port 1, D-Link: Visor Deluxe
Port 2, D-Link: Iomega Zip Drive
Port 3, D-Link: Empty
Port 4, D-Link: Empty

This is a pretty nasty bunch of devices, but it works. Apple upgraded their USB controler and re-wrote some of the Finder code. As Martha would say, "It's a good thing."

In case you're wondering about the why's of my setup, here are a few general rules about USB (for Macs):

1. Always plug the Apple Keyboard into port 1 of the computer (it searches for this in the boot sequence, if it doesn't find it, it may cause problems)
2. Always plug the mouse into the keyboard
3. When using a hub, plug the device that needs the most power into the first port. The further down the line you get, the less reliable the port. The exception is if the device you are plugging in has its own power source (i.e. iomega Zip drive, not too sure about the new 250Mb drives that supply their own power via USB).

I may be incorrect about some of the above technical information. If I am, please post a correction so we can all benefit and find a cure for USB madness.

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lennonhead
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Originally posted by MacLevin
...so we can all benefit and find a cure for USB madness.


Use Firewire .

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Smile

How 'bout a Platinum Visor with FireWire. You'd see smoke comming out of that little microphone hole.

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dick-richardson
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I was wrong. I'm still slugging along with 9.0.4 right now. I'll download 9.1 tomorrow when I get back on the internet at my house (finally!).

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MacLevin
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Don't forget to install when booted from another disk. I think this circumvents some problems.

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Ash
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Here's my setup:

PowerMac 8600/300 with 4 port USB PCI card.

Just did a clean install of 9.0 this weekend, then added the 9.1 Update, then a clean install of other software, then the Handspring Palm Desktop 2.6.1 distribution, then the most recent Avantgo distribution.

Synching went okay before I added Avantgo, but after adding Avantgo it started locking the computer hard during the Avantgo synch. Disabling the Avantgo conduit fixed the problem (I mostly just synch at work anyway and this is my home machine).

I may try reinstalling Avantgo to see if that fixes it.

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lennonhead
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I had a very similar problem with Avant Go. I just stopped using it. After I installed Palm Desktop 2.6.1 so that I could sync on my G4, Avant Go froze up the computer during hotsyncs. I haven't bothered to figure out why. Maybe I'll try and re-install it again.

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chrisfoster
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My setup (Powerbook G3/300 w/ Cardbus USB) works great with OS 9.1.

I never sync, however, with full backup on. It seem that it takes my computer so long to run through the contents of my Visor's backup folder (7 megs of Palm Stuff) that my Visor times out and drops the hotsync connection. I use the backup module to revive my Visor after a hard reset, and keep my backup's folder empty. For one program I just have to keeped backed up (Four.Zero) , I wrote a custom backup conduit which only backs up that one program's DB.

(Some good that did. I once had to revive my Visor with a out to date backup module, so I thought the next Hotsync would bring my old data up to date. Well, I forgot that my "custom" conduit only goes one way (Palm -> Mac), so my new Four.Zero data got wiped by my old data.)

I don't know how Palm's worked without a Backup module. It's like you can transfer the life of one Visor to another.

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dick-richardson
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Now I've got it. Everything's working fine.

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