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Inventorb
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Has this Improved your Visor?

1. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your Hand Held Computer?
2. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your resale value of your Visor?
3. Is it beneficial to tell everyone (if selling) that your Visor has always used a Screen Protector, and that the
face plate is like new?

I have found that this Board has some very intelligent readers. These questions should be easy to answer.

What is your thoughts on these Questions?

Thank You
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Before I answer those questions, will you please state your reason for wanting to know? Is it:
1) Market research
2) Simple curiousity
3) You're lonely and need contact with others
4) You want to cause pain and anguish by starting yet another post that will soon degenerate into severe name calling (not necessarily on your part)
5) You like everybody here, feel we are all true soulmates and just love to spend quality time with us ( ahh, Bill!)

While I'm injecting some attempts at humor into this post, I would like to know what your purpose in this posting is.
Your Obedient Servant,
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Angry If you won't go away...

Warman, if you won't go away, please at least get someone to check your grammar so you sound somewhat intelligent in your posts (what "are" your thoughts, not what "is" your thoughts).

1. - No, a screen protector does not "improve my Hand Held Computer". It does not make it any better than it was before the screen protector, either in style or functionality. It merely serves to protect without adding anything to my Visor.

2. - No, a screen protector does not improve the resale value. It is worth no more, if I was to resell it, with a screen protector than without one. This is because of the above question/answer - it adds nothing to the Visor.

3. - Negligibly (a very tiny bit). The only purpose of a screen protector is to protect the screen. That's all it does. It doesn't make anything better or worth more. There is no difference in saying "the screen is like new" and "the screen is like new because it had a screen protector on it". A few people who do not understand this point may put some importance on it having had a screen protector on it, but the fact it, if it's like new, it's like new, and it doesn't matter how it got to be that way - screen protector, careful use, lack of use, whatever.

Despite all my past experience with you, I have given you the benefit of the doubt, given you another chance, and answered your questions. By my answers, I hope to help you understand something -

You are not a hero because you manufacture screen protectors. You would not be a hero if you had "invented" screen protectors. You do not have so many people mad at you because "they didn't think of it" or because they are trying to take credit for it or steal what should be "your" profit from it. You are a small and unimportant man with a small and unimportant niche business that only exists out of necessity. No one uses a screen protector because they think it's such a great product that adds anything to their Visor. They use it simply to prevent scratches on a screen that they wish HandSpring or Palm or whoever would have made more scratch resistant.

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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Before I answer those questions, will you please state your reason for wanting to know? Is it:
1) Market research
2) Simple curiousity
3) You're lonely and need contact with others
4) You want to cause pain and anguish by starting yet another post that will soon degenerate into severe name calling (not necessarily on your part)
5) You like everybody here, feel we are all true soulmates and just love to spend quality time with us ( ahh, Bill!)

While I'm injecting some attempts at humor into this post, I would like to know what your purpose in this posting is.
Your Obedient Servant,
BobbyMike




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excuse me.

[Edited by Inventorb on 10-10-2000 at 01:23 PM]

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quote:
Originally posted by Inventorb
quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Before I answer those questions, will you please state your reason for wanting to know? Is it:
1) Market research
2) Simple curiousity
3) You're lonely and need contact with others
4) You want to cause pain and anguish by starting yet another post that will soon degenerate into severe name calling (not necessarily on your part)
5) You like everybody here, feel we are all true soulmates and just love to spend quality time with us ( ahh, Bill!)

While I'm injecting some attempts at humor into this post, I would like to know what your purpose in this posting is.
Your Obedient Servant,
BobbyMike






BobbyMike:

The resale questions are for the after market evaluation.
The rest of the questions is for my personnel knowledge. I am trying hard to learn what my potential customers are interested in. I have been trying to do this with every thread. I guess this is simple curiosity.

I do not like when the others degenerate my discussions into severe name calling. It is not necessarily on my part, or anyone else's part. I am totally serious in all my posting but pretty soon someone will start all the B.S. At that time I will respond accordingly.

Maybe we can keep this one on POINT.

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Re: If you won't go away...

quote:
Originally posted by mchlwise
Warman, if you won't go away, please at least get someone to check your grammar so you sound somewhat intelligent in your posts (what "are" your thoughts, not what "is" your thoughts).

1. - No, a screen protector does not "improve my Hand Held Computer". It does not make it any better than it was before the screen protector, either in style or functionality. It merely serves to protect without adding anything to my Visor.

2. - No, a screen protector does not improve the resale value. It is worth no more, if I was to resell it, with a screen protector than without one. This is because of the above question/answer - it adds nothing to the Visor.

3. - Negligibly (a very tiny bit). The only purpose of a screen protector is to protect the screen. That's all it does. It doesn't make anything better or worth more. There is no difference in saying "the screen is like new" and "the screen is like new because it had a screen protector on it". A few people who do not understand this point may put some importance on it having had a screen protector on it, but the fact it, if it's like new, it's like new, and it doesn't matter how it got to be that way - screen protector, careful use, lack of use, whatever.

Despite all my past experience with you, I have given you the benefit of the doubt, given you another chance, and answered your questions. By my answers, I hope to help you understand something -

You are not a hero because you manufacture screen protectors. You would not be a hero if you had "invented" screen protectors. You do not have so many people mad at you because "they didn't think of it" or because they are trying to take credit for it or steal what should be "your" profit from it. You are a small and unimportant man with a small and unimportant niche business that only exists out of necessity. No one uses a screen protector because they think it's such a great product that adds anything to their Visor. They use it simply to prevent scratches on a screen that they wish HandSpring or Palm or whoever would have made more scratch resistant.




Thank You for your comments.
Inventor

[Edited by Inventorb on 10-10-2000 at 06:48 PM]

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Inventorb,
Thank you for your clear answer to my question.
1) No, it does not improve ("to make better in quality or more valuable")my handheld. In my case it is an accessory ("a supplementary component")
2)Not in my own opinion. Used is used.
3)Again, not in my own opinion.
In my case I wouldn't pay substantially more for a used PDA because it had been 'screen-protected'. If I ever bought a used PDA, it would have to be dirt cheap.PDA's are so inexpensive now, it doesn't make sense (for me) to buy one used, unless I was going to make a robot out of it- and then it wouldn't be a tool, it would be a toy.
Have a nice day,
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Inventorb,
Thank you for your clear answer to my question.
1) No, it does not improve ("to make better in quality or more valuable")my handheld. In my case it is an accessory ("a supplementary component")
2)Not in my own opinion. Used is used.
3)Again, not in my own opinion.
In my case I wouldn't pay substantially more for a used PDA because it had been 'screen-protected'. If I ever bought a used PDA, it would have to be dirt cheap.PDA's are so inexpensive now, it doesn't make sense (for me) to buy one used, unless I was going to make a robot out of it- and then it wouldn't be a tool, it would be a toy.
Have a nice day,
BobbyMike





Thank You for your comments.
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[Edited by Inventorb on 10-10-2000 at 06:47 PM]

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Just for grins, I'll try to answer this honestly without any
nitpicking on grammar and see what happens.

1) In my case, a anti-glare screen protector improves the
_experience_ of using the visor.

2) Just as I expect a higher resale value on my truck when I
remove the bedliner that took all the dings and scratches I would expect a _slightly_ higher resale value for a scratch free screen. It's only a $250 device, so I wouldn't expect much.

3) I doubt that I would make a point of mentioning screen protector use if I were selling my visor while I might point out the condition of the screen itself.

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quote:
Originally posted by DanJ
Just for grins, I'll try to answer this honestly without any
nitpicking on grammar and see what happens.

1) In my case, a anti-glare screen protector improves the
_experience_ of using the visor.

2) Just as I expect a higher resale value on my truck when I
remove the bedliner that took all the dings and scratches I would expect a _slightly_ higher resale value for a scratch free screen. It's only a $250 device, so I wouldn't expect much.

3) I doubt that I would make a point of mentioning screen protector use if I were selling my visor while I might point out the condition of the screen itself.




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InventorB,

You don't have to say 'thank you' for every reply.
This is just a waste off resources. And personnally it tends to get a bit annoying and can be considered as a smarta$$ remark....

I am happy that you feel good about the replies you are getting in this thread. But please don't tell us after every reply. Try doing it after 10 or more replies or 2 day, whatever comes first....
I'm also happy this thread hasn't started to become a namecalling thread. Let's keep up the good work!

I'll also give you some answers (and you don't have to thank me for them )
1: No, I don't even use them....
2: It might not 'improve your resale value of your Visor' but it might prefent it from losing too much money when you resell it... personally I like to keep my old gadgets around so that is not an issue for me at all...
3: don't think so, I think the condition of the machine at the time is the only criteria. If it never had a screensaver but is in 'as good as new' condition is worth more than if it has had one but is in a lousy condition. But I'll admit that it is likely that if you used them the screen is probably in better condition, but it depends on the usage...

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quote:
Originally posted by Inventorb
quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Before I answer those questions, will you please state your reason for wanting to know? Is it:
1) Market research
2) Simple curiousity
3) You're lonely and need contact with others
4) You want to cause pain and anguish by starting yet another post that will soon degenerate into severe name calling (not necessarily on your part)
5) You like everybody here, feel we are all true soulmates and just love to spend quality time with us ( ahh, Bill!)

While I'm injecting some attempts at humor into this post, I would like to know what your purpose in this posting is.
Your Obedient Servant,
BobbyMike




I must have done something wrong.
excuse me.

[Edited by Inventorb on 10-10-2000 at 01:23 PM]



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quote:
Originally posted by dequardo
quote:
Originally posted by Inventorb
quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Before I answer those questions, will you please state your reason for wanting to know? Is it:
1) Market research
2) Simple curiousity
3) You're lonely and need contact with others
4) You want to cause pain and anguish by starting yet another post that will soon degenerate into severe name calling (not necessarily on your part)
5) You like everybody here, feel we are all true soulmates and just love to spend quality time with us ( ahh, Bill!)

While I'm injecting some attempts at humor into this post, I would like to know what your purpose in this posting is.
Your Obedient Servant,
BobbyMike




I must have done something wrong.
excuse me.

[Edited by Inventorb on 10-10-2000 at 01:23 PM]



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dequardo:

Please stay within the following questions.
If you have nothing to add, then do not add anything.

Has this Improved your Visor?

1. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your Hand Held Computer?
2. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your resale value of your Visor?
3. Is it beneficial to tell everyone (if selling) that your Visor has always used a Screen Protector, and that the
face plate is like new?

Thank You
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quote:
Originally posted by Inventorb

Please stay within the following questions.
If you have nothing to add, then do not add anything.

Has this Improved your Visor?

1. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your Hand Held Computer?
2. Does a Screen Protector (Any Brand, any make ,or model). improve your resale value of your Visor?
3. Is it beneficial to tell everyone (if selling) that your Visor has always used a Screen Protector, and that the
face plate is like new?

Thank You
Inventor [/B]


mmm who died and made you moderator?
please leave that job to us... MarkEagle allready told you that here .
And BobbyMike had a good remark about it here
People are free to post whatever they feel as long as they play according to the rules...


dequardo; what did you mean with 'TROLL' something like LOL or ROFL? don't know this abreviation, please explain...

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Inventorb,

Please STOP QUOTING large blocks of non-essential text from prior messages. It is very distracting to those of us actually trying to read this thread. You do not need to repeat everything... if you want to quote a specific part of a posting, edit out the remaining text.

Simple replies can be accomplished by using the button located at the top and bottom of each page as opposed to the button.

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quote:
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dequardo; what did you mean with 'TROLL' something like LOL or ROFL? don't know this abreviation, please explain...



See http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/t.html#troll:
quote:

2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."


Or just visit http://slashdot.org everyonce in awhile. You'll soon find out what is a troll.

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quote:
Originally posted by MarkEagle
Inventorb,

Please STOP QUOTING edit out the remaining text.




OK

Now can you people please answer the original questions?

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Angry Why do we continue feeding this?

Everyone,

Do you know what is most annoying to our dear friend, Emperor Inventor?

Ignoring any and all of his posts.

Please, for Pete's sake... let's drop this thread. And any further "probing" and "prodding" that the esteemed gentleman from the fair 'state of lost' has for us.

Please.

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Re: Why do we continue feeding this?

quote:
Originally posted by Corky


Ignoring any and all of his posts.





Corky:
Go away you are not contributing anyway. We do not need your BS. Take a Hike. you do not need to read a tread that does not entertain you. If you would like to come back and contribute we will welcome you back with open ears. But for now Buy Buy

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Wink Re: Re: Why do we continue feeding this?

quote:
Originally posted by Inventorb
But for now Buy Buy



Buy what??

sorry, I couldn't resist, as a moderator I should know better but I guess I'm only human after all

Now seriously, lets not start another flamewar, I guess for most people it is best to ignore certain people. Don't start a flamewar if you don't like some remark, if you have good argument share them with the rest of us and have a good but clean discussion. If not, please ignore the other person. That means everybody INCLUDING InventorB.

If nobody likes what a person has to say and just ignores him, he wil eventually stop posting that way since he wil get no results...

Above all, DO NOT start a flamewar... let's keep it civilized...

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