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Black_Dragon
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Well now I'm sorry I ever brought it up.

People: They're just computers, nothing to get worked up about! Just because I happen to have the *opinion* that Apple is not as well off as they could be is just that, my opinion. I'm not saying anyone who buys a Mac is a retard, or that Apple is planning on filing Chapter 13 tomorrow.

And as for innovation, for every Powerbook G4, there's a Quadra 800 or PowerMac 7100...They're not perfect either.

And that's all I'm going to say ever on the subject of Macintosh computers. :P~

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Apple ... is teetering on the edge of it's own destruction.


People have been saying this since '85. I don't think Apple's going anywhere for a long time.

As for the buyout - I seriously doubt that Jeff & Donna would let that happen. It just doesn't make any sense for Handspring.

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A Likely Story

Its more fun to think about an Apple acquisition, but if Palm moves away from the OS system licensing business I suspect that Handspring would form an alliance (or buyout) with Hewlitt Packard, with HP developing its own OS and Handspring doing R&D and marketing on the hardware side.

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OMG! another antimac post!

First of all, from what information are you are basing your allegations of Apples self destruction. If you dont want a Pro/Anti Mac flame war then dont supply the fuel. How about Palm's own self destruction, then nobody will own a PalmOS product.

I myself think Apple and Handspring would be a nice combination. Apple has won numerous awards over the years for product design and I think that an Apple designed PDA would be awesome.

The article mentions HS and Palm doing poorly, so if apple wants to use some of its 4 billion dollars in cash to bail one of these guys out what makes you think that they'll be around period if they continue own their own. Who needs who?

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homer
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To be sure, Apple is a fine company, but is teetering on the edge of it's own destruction.


Back that up with some sound business analyst figures please.

Then I might believe you.

As for pure speculation, I think it is a viable idea. Jobs wanted to buy Palm. Handspring has thrown out tidbits of information that lead us to think that they may have plans for other OSs. Visors have been showing up next to Macs in Apple advertising.

Dubinsky, Hawkins and Jobs are very much alike in being visionary designers. This could be a good thing AND a bad thing.

It's a fun thought. And, with Hanspring's valuation so low, It's hard not to believe that SOMEONE is eyeing them as a possible acquisition.

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Let's take a look at this Apple "teetering on the edge of its own destruction" for a second. 25,000,000 customer buying $1,000 computers (God knows they're not $1000, but play along for a second) means they're pulling in $25,000,000,000. Let's say it costs Apple $800 to build that $1000 computer (I'm trying to help you envision Apple's downfall). That means Apple's cost is $20,000,000,000. That leaves Apple with 5 billion dollars (ultra-conservatively) to pay employees, rental space, electricity, water, etc. Let's say that costs them $100,000,000 a year. Let's also say that no one who bought an Apple computer is going to buy another one. Apple stays in business for 50 years. Of course, that's also assuming that Apple doesn't do anything with regard to stocks, bonds, or other forms of investments. And you think Apple is "teetering on the edge of its own destruction"? You must've gotten your hands on whatever bblue's been taking (I disagree with you, Toby � I think it's LSD, not crack).

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(I disagree with you, Toby � I think it's LSD, not crack).


Well, I never said it was _only_ crack. I'd believe that other things could be in the mix.

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Apple NOT likely to buy Palm either

The possiblity of Apple buying Palm, not Handspring, came up a couple of days ago at Mac OS Rumors. But read their analysis of the rumor. Their logic on why Apple will NOT buy Palm makes good sense. Same logic applies to Apple buying Handspring.

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<snip>... To be sure, Apple is a fine company, but is teetering on the edge of it's own destruction...<snip>
That comment is flame bait no matter how you look at it.

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MPM:

The one note that doesn't necessarily apply to Handspring, that MOSR mentioned, is the OS licensing. I don't think Apple would necessarily be interested in the OS, but rather the hardware and engineering aspects of Handspring.

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You must've gotten your hands on whatever bblue's been taking (I disagree with you, Toby � I think it's LSD, not crack).


Bblue annoys you too!!! I thought it was just me, but that guy drives me nuts!!! If he lived in Texas I could shoot him for being a retard

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Will Handspring buy Apple?

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:sniffle:

Ah HA! People plotting against me... ah well, go ahead.


I really doubt Handspring would buy Apple, and I doubt Vice Versa. (Or it would have already happened) I do think Apple & HS may co-op something in the VERY near future, since it's become obvious of Apple's subliminal promotion (the iBook ads?) of HS products, and HS's influences on Apple products. (The Edge/Powerbook? Deluxe/iMac?)

Bblue doesn't take drugs either. Nope, just a lame sense o' humor... and prozac....... (j/k)

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and HS's influences on Apple products. (The Edge/Powerbook? Deluxe/iMac?)


The iMac came before the Visor. The iMac, while being a great design at the time, is responsible for the translucent, colored plastic product design that has plagued us these past few years.

I'm not sure what the similiarities between the Powerbook and Edge are, other than that they are flat, which, of course, should be the goal of ANY portable computing device manufacturer.

As for Handspring buying Apple, I don't think that could happen. Does Handspring have that kind of buying power at this point and time?

That said, stranger things have happened (AOL/TimeWarner).

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Cool My Apologies

I meant HS's influences from Apple products. Another day, another typo.


Anyway, your exactly right. Handspring could NEVER buy Apple... well, at least for now. And I doubt they ever could.

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Lesson for the day: never discuss politics, religion or Apple.

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esson for the day: never discuss politics, religion or Apple.


I think the issue is that to some people, Apple IS a religion

That said, I don't think anyone was out to get Black_Dragon...we were just all wondering what s/he meant by 'teetering on the edge of it's own destruction'

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Lesson for the day: never discuss politics, religion or Apple.

I rather enjoy a well thought out and substantiated argument, on any subject. Saying Apple is "teetering on the edge of its own destruction" qualifies as neither.

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Well, I never said it was _only_ crack. I'd believe that other things could be in the mix.

My misunderstanding. Forgive me.

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I think the issue is that to some people, Apple IS a religion

That said, I don't think anyone was out to get Black_Dragon...we were just all wondering what s/he meant by 'teetering on the edge of it's own destruction'



He, and it was just an expression. I suppose I'll pick words more carefully around Mac users in the future...

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I suppose I'll pick words more carefully around Mac users in the future...


I don't think it has to do with Mac users being defensive, just that you made a pretty specific statement that really had no facts backing it up.

We were just curious as to why you thought that. You later said it was your opinion, which is fine, but your original post did not make that clear. (though, arguably, everything on this discussion board is merely personal opinion.)

And that's just my opinion

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