fletcherism
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 14 |
I have Cingular, and I had these problems last fall too. In fact, I had just about every problem mentioned here- inability to access internet, phone acting funny upon returning from a trip, and sudden loss of ability to place phone calls.
First let me explain what I know about Cingular's network access. I have an option enabled on my account called Cingular Data. This option is only $2.99 a month, does not get charged $.15 a minute, and as far as I know doesn't "expire". This service does give you some kind of phone number for "data", but I don't use it, and I'm not sure that you can. At least, I've never been able to get a Cingular rep to explain to me what it's for. Anyway, all it does is enable you to use their network to access the internet via your own ISP. For instance, I use Prodigy, and when I dial up to them, Cingular treats it like a regular voice call (I have Unlimited Nights and Weekends and the data calls are treated that way).
OK, so here's what happened when I got my VP last fall:
I received it at the end of August, and quickly found out that I needed the Cingular Data option, not their entire Wireless Internet package. Things were cool at first, but I soon discovered that my VP had the annoying habit of turning itself off without warning, and frequently- multiple times a day. Not while I was placing calls, just when I was walking around the office. I wasn't even going in and out of dead spots. Handspring support suggested that I just have the phone replaced, which I did. This did not alleviate the problem.
Continuing to investigate the problem with both Handspring and Cingular, I was about to have the phone replaced again when one Handspring techie suggested I have Cingular replace my SIM card. I didn't really think this would help, but I did it anyway. This seemed to be a mistake at first, but later turned out to be essential.
My VP's original SIM card was an older 16K card. Cingular only issues 32K SIM cards now, so that's what I got as a replacement. When I put the new one in my phone, the phone would not work at all. If I took the SIM card out and put it in somebody else's phone, it would also not work. If I took that other person's SIM card and put it in my VP, it would work. So, the Cingular folks came to the conclusion (correctly) that the problem was on their end. They just couldn't figure out what the problem was.
After a few days of working on the problem, Cingular Tech Support finally decided to do the same thing that "bscblue" spoke of: a total reset of my account. That did the trick- now I was able to place calls, and hey, my phone seemed to stop shutting itself off all the time. That situation still seems to be OK, knock on wood.
However, at about this time I discovered I could not place data calls to Prodigy anymore. I was getting the same "1102 no carrier" error. Going on a hunch, I checked my Cingular account options online, and discovered I no longer had Cingular Data- despite the fact that it was on my printed bill. When I called customer service, the agent confirmed that I was being billed for Cingular Data, but also that it was not active. He also discovered that he couldn't reactivate it, nor could he remove it and then re-add it. Again, I got handed up to Cingular Tech Support, and although I never found out what they did, they did call me back to let me know it was active, and asked me to try it out and make sure it worked. It did.
So, I'll try and sum all this up for anyone reading this who may be experiencing odd problems with their VP and their phone service.
#1- When you get to the point where the customer service reps and/or techies are shrugging their shoulders, ask them to reset your account, and/or replace your SIM card with a 32K one (assuming yours is 16K. Unfortunately, I don't know how to tell the difference visually).
#2- If you're having problems accessing the internet, ask them to confirm that the service is indeed active. If they claim that it is, perhaps you can ask them to disable it and then reenable it.
#3- Although I haven't had to do it, it sounds like it'd be a good thing to remember the "cancel location" trick that forces your phone to re-sign on to the network when you power it off and then on again, as "edmcfp" described.
This stuff should be included as printed material in VisorPhone (and Treo) packaging. Or at least entered into an FAQ somewhere.
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