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yardie
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I was shocked that you thought K.Cannon was ridiculing you. It did not come across as that to me at all.Perhaps you are a bit too sensitive at the moment.

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Originally posted by ToolkiT

Sorry, I did see your and knew you weren't 100% serious...
Maybe I'm a bit sensitive on this subject...

I do tend to see this kind of behaviour a lot though.. sometimes it really pisses me off...

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02-23-2003 07:14 AM

yardie
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Powell

I have seen the word "terrorism" being used multiple times more than the word used to be used before September 11, 2001. How comes everyone is a terrorist all of a sudden?

I always thought I was lightened up. I am not as worked up as you think

It is easier to get a gun (legal or otherwise) in the U.S. than Canada. A lot of the illegal guns here are from the U.S.

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Originally posted by BobbyMike

What does it take for someone to be called a terrorist? I was referring to your overly broad statement - "Ever notice that the word terrorism is linked to everything the U.S. government hates or disagree with now?"

Are you suggesting we should invade? That's ridiculous.

First, "anyone with a oulse (pulse?) can go and buy one legally at a store?" can't just get one. I'm not necessarily talking about Americans either. We were talking about terrorism.

Second, I'm talking about illegal arms - meaning unregistered guns. Everything from semi-automatic handguns to automatic weapons. I'm not talking about law-abiding citizens buying guns for hunting purposes.

Third, you need to lighten up. You're going to end up a prime candidate for ulcers, heart disease, and colon cancer. You're wound a bit too tight. Maybe you should look into yoga?

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02-23-2003 07:18 AM

yardie
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I think the French are right. For the European Union to be strong, all members should be singing from the same songbook.

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Originally posted by John Nowak

No.

The government of France, for example, based on Chirac's outburst and the French Ambassador to Bulgaria informing Bulgarians that they need to "think like Europeans" (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/ma...equestid=39707, towards the end) clearly sees the European Union as the new French Empire.

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02-23-2003 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by yardie
I think the French are right. For the European Union to be strong, all members should be singing from the same songbook.

I think it's funny that they are doing the same thing to Eastern Europe as we are doing to them. "If you don't agree with us, you are going to be left behind."

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02-23-2003 05:13 PM

yardie
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And how would the French be left behind if they do not agree with the U.S.?

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I think it's funny that they are doing the same thing to Eastern Europe as we are doing to them. "If you don't agree with us, you are going to be left behind."

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02-23-2003 08:14 PM

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quote:
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And how would the French be left behind if they do not agree with the U.S.?

Because of the US's heft, economically and politically. For the same reason the EU started whining when the administration announced it would be paying more attention to the Americas and Asia and less to Europe.

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02-23-2003 11:48 PM

BobbyMike
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quote:
Originally posted by yardie
I think the French are right. For the European Union to be strong, all members should be singing from the same songbook.

So everybody in the EU should just let France tell them what's right and wrong? No room for disagreement? I think you may find that the Eastern European countries are not really interested in having someone dictate to them what they should be thinking. They had Moscow do that for years.

By your logic I could easily say why doesn't France just shut up and let the "Big Boys" in the UN handle the decisions. After all they aren't a military, cultural, or a economic powerhouse anymore. In fact, they even recently lost to Japan(?!) and America(?!), and Belgium(?!) in Breadmaking!

Coupe du Monde de la Boulangerie (World Cup of Baking)

I think all our differences could be solved if the leaders of our countries just arm wrestled to see who was right. No bombs or rhetoric, just bicep vs. bicep!

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02-24-2003 02:36 PM

K. Cannon
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
I think all our differences could be solved if the leaders of our countries just arm wrestled to see who was right. No bombs or rhetoric, just bicep vs. bicep!

If only Janet Reno were President....

02-24-2003 10:12 PM

ToolkiT
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike

I think all our differences could be solved if the leaders of our countries just arm wrestled to see who was right. No bombs or rhetoric, just bicep vs. bicep!

With Bush as pres. dont think you win from Iraq...
Australia will stand no chance at all with Howard...

Kind of remind me of that old Duran Duran video... forgot the name of the song..

But instead of war by 'mere mortals' it would be a good idea to get the leaders of a country more personal at risk when they start a war.. maybe that will make them think twice...
It is a lot more easy to sign a declaration of war in a bombshelter than at the front of the lines..

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02-25-2003 12:30 AM

John Nowak
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quote:
Originally posted by yardie
I think the French are right. For the European Union to be strong, all members should be singing from the same songbook.

So let me see if I understand you...

France and Germany, as sovereign countries, announced their opposition to war. They did not, in any way, consult the other members or potential members of the EU.

Eighteen members and/or potential members of the EU announced their desire that the Security Council enforce their resolutions, even at the cost of war.

Therefore, it is the 18 other sovereign countries who are responsible for the split in the EU.

Simply fantastic.

02-25-2003 01:14 AM

BobbyMike
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quote:
Originally posted by ToolkiT

With Bush as pres. dont think you win from Iraq...

I wasn't looking for an easy win! Thumb wrestling might be a better way as it takes less muscle and more wile.

K.C. I said arm wrestling, not alligator wrestling!

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02-25-2003 01:31 PM

Xenoepist
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quote:
Originally posted by ToolkiT

But instead of war by 'mere mortals' it would be a good idea to get the leaders of a country more personal at risk when they start a war.. maybe that will make them think twice...
It is a lot more easy to sign a declaration of war in a bombshelter than at the front of the lines..

Imagine our Mr. Bush in full combat gear, I doubt if he can even stand up with all the weight let alone�. never mind. I forget his dad got him in National Guards during last Gulf war.

02-25-2003 03:33 PM

Toby
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Originally posted by Xenoepist
Imagine our Mr. Bush in full combat gear, I doubt if he can even stand up with all the weight let alone�. never mind. I forget his dad got him in National Guards during last Gulf war.

If you're going to criticize him for being in the National Guard, at least get your facts straight. It was during _Vietnam_.

02-25-2003 04:07 PM

Xenoepist
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby

If you're going to criticize him for being in the National Guard, at least get your facts straight. It was during _Vietnam_.

Opps, sorry.

02-25-2003 06:37 PM

KRamsauer
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If you're going to criticize him for being in the National Guard, at least get your facts straight. It was during _Vietnam_.

Okay, good. I was thinking "Wow, he was pretty old to be sent into combat...."

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02-25-2003 07:05 PM

Digisane
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quote:
Originally posted by Toby

If you're going to criticize him for being in the National Guard, at least get your facts straight. It was during _Vietnam_.

LOL! I was thinking the same thing and figured something couldn't be right, I actually existed in this world when the Gulf War started.

Was reading through the whole thread. Must say that it's a very interesting topic, considering I read through 8 pages of it in one go! Although I want to say I have absolutely no opinions on the subject, and would never get myself into it but both sides make very valid points.

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02-26-2003 07:41 AM

BobbyMike
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quote:
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Imagine our Mr. Bush in full combat gear, I doubt if he can even stand up with all the weight let alone�. never mind. I forget his dad got him in National Guards during last Gulf war.

His dad most likely didn't have to do a thing except be himself. The Commander in charge of those decisions in Texas was notorious for admitting any famous persons' son.

Can you name a President, or a Presidential candidate, other than Sen. John Macain who served in Vietnam, during the Vietnam War?

Clinton hid at at Oxford, Gore served as a journalist, Bush joined the National Guard as a pilot. Anyobody remember what anyone else did?

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02-26-2003 12:45 PM

Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
Can you name a President, or a Presidential candidate, other than Sen. John Macain who served in Vietnam, during the Vietnam War?

John Kerry.

02-26-2003 03:05 PM

BobbyMike
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That's one, anymore?

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02-27-2003 12:49 AM

K. Cannon
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyMike
That's one, anymore?

Janet Reno? OOPS, wait, no....she was an Alligator Wrestler during 'Nam....

Kidding. you make a valid point. Attempting to avoid Vietnam surely was not limited to either Democrats or Republicans. And it is rather silly to criticize this President for doing pretty much what the previous President did.

02-27-2003 03:19 PM

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