homer
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Foo said:
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If Apple does deliver some excellent new, lower priced, G4 systems this July, and drops the price on that 15" LCD....ooh baby!
Well, rumour has it that Apple is finished with CRT monitors and ALL future apple monitors will be LCD...which may very well mean lower prices all around.
MensaChicken said:
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really? at the time those clones were out, i considered buying a mac. i read every review of every clone to mac comparison i could find. not a single one did the mac win.
Sorry, I misunderstood you. Yes, at that particular time, apple was in a very dark hole when it came to good design. That was apple's hey-day of the beige brick. I still have one sitting on my desk (the powermac 7200). It'll soon become a linux box sitting UNDER my desk.
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i am always baffled by the people who tell me that "well, then, you're not part of apple's target market!" bullocks! apple wants to sell a computer to every man woman and child, just like any other computer company does.
Does BMW want to sell a car to every man and woman in the country? Does IKEA want to sell furniture in every city in America? Is Target trying to steal Kmart customers? Well, yes and no. While all of these companies want to sell more, they also realize that they appeal to only a segment of the population.
This is one of the failings of Windows, IMHO. Windows attempts to be everything to everyone. There are talking paper clips and wizards galore for the newbie and there are system-level command-line calls, VB scripting, and what have you for the die-hard programmer. Because of that, Windows tends to be a very bloated OS that often hinders the user in some way.
We're in a very odd time in US corporate history. Today, if your company isn't making record profits or expanding into more and more markets, you are considered a failure. What happened to companies just turning a plain old profit...or just breaking even? When did that become a bad thing? (Mensachicken...that is not directed at you, personally...just at the US in general)
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which they ditched with g4s, screwing their fans who've got peripherals up the wazoo that would no longer be supported.
OK, here's another American stereotype...we hate change. We like our old fashioned oil-burning cars, our big highways, our plain-old telephone lines. Our country, in a lot of ways, is SO FAR behind the rest of the world because we refuse to give up outdated technologies...usually because we say it is 'too expensive' (we're cheap...remember!)  )
To be fair, I was a bit peeved about the SCSI thing at first, but I realized quickly how great firewire and USB were and, even though I have SCSI peripherals in a box somewhere, I just can't bring myself to haul those old beasts out of the box.
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they have LONG made a superior computer to anyone else... but they remain with, what, 10% of the market?
Why is that bad? Apple is the 3rd largest computer manufacturer in the world. A lot of companies would kill for 10% of any market.
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ame reason beta died and vhs lived, even though beta is a superior format--because of poor business decisions.
Well, beta never died...it only died as a consumer product (it is still used commercially). That said, you have a point in that perhaps if they had licensed the technology, we'd all have been using Beta.
However, I'd like to blame Americans, once again, for choosing an inferior, albeit cheaper technology in the first place 
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exactly who did they design the damn thing for? from what i understand they sure built a hell of a lot of them... who were they planning on selling them to?
I'm pretty sure they were designed for the computer-illeterate graphic designer. A lot of graphic designers, while being great designers, really know nothing about the computer. They use Macs because that's all they've ever used. These people NEVER upgrade their system (they can hardly install software at times) so they wouldn't even know how to open a computer up if they wanted to.
This is who the cube was designed for.
For people like you and me, who maybe want to...oh...I don't know...add a second video card REALLY hate the cube because it is so self contained.
That said, is sure is cute!
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you're probably right. so why did they release it? why release an operating system that doesn't even allow people to write to a CD?! it's 2001 for goodness sake. when i read this i didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
I agree, however, that's what Microsoft has been doing for 6 years. Win98 was pretty much a bug fix for Win95. Win2K came out with hardly any support for other hardware.
The reason Apple released it was because they had to. They had to get their new OS out the door on time. They decided to be honest and told everyone that it wasn't complete. Because of that, a lot of people ARE using OSX now, and that is pushing all of the software companies to get their software out for OSX.
If apple would have waited until fall for OSX, we'd have another 6 month wait until software companies got their acts together.
I actually think this was a good thing on Apple's part.
(BTW, OSX.02 was just released...with CDR support)
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i disagree. i think that's a very subjective statement. my mother is 61 this year and is the least technical person i know (can't set clock on microwave, for instance). she runs windows 98 no problem
Yes...you are right it is a very subjective statement.
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i have other friends who are graphic designers and film/sound editors who are baffled by apple's "extensions".
Let them try to figure out DLL files! This does baffle the mind...how anyone that uses a 'tool' day in and day out for their livelyhood can have absolutely no interest in how the tool works. I had to train an department once to update their intranet (on PCs). The secretary had to go to a web page to authroize the updates. This is how she did it:
- She'd open her email program
- She'd look through all of her email looking for the one with the site info.
- she'd open it and look for the link
- She'd copy the link and close her email program
- She'd open the browser in paste it in the URL field.
After the 3rd time she did this, I suggested she just bookmark the page. "Bookmark? What's that?" Ugh! 
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anway, you made some interesting points. thanks for the banter.
And you made some good points too.
Bantering is fun.
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