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lennonhead
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After spending far too much time researching this , I'm sick to death of phones and cables and springboard modules.

So now I would like to know three things:

1) Does anyone know when the SpringPort Wireless Data module is going to be released (it is already supposed to be out) and if it will work with a Nokia 5190 (GSM) phone?

2) Has anyone had success connecting a Nokia 5190 (or similar) phone by the methods described in the, very confusing, RS232 thread?

3) Does anyone know if you can use a CDMA phone on Verizon's network to access the internet by using your calling minutes (if I decide not to go the GSM way)?

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If you are GSM you might tried the Visorphone springboard. I'm using Sprint with a Timeport phone and I have had no problems. Check out my wireless thread in accessories. I explain how to get on using Sprint. It might work with your provider. I do know that all phone do not work.

Good luck

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lennonhead,

I'm using my Prism with a CDMA phone (Motorola Timeport 8767) and Verizon, and it works perfectly, without having to get the Verizon WebAccess service. We made a cable using MarkEagle's info from the RS232 thread (thanks guys!), that is, taking a charger cable (not the datacable) and a Visor USB sync cable and creating one. I think the only problem would be if you dropped out of digital range.

Linda

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Thanks for your help! I am still undecided, but am leaning towards the making my own cable route. How involved is it to make a cable out of the USB sync cable and a phone charger? I realize that there is a whole thread explaining how to do everything, but I'd like to know if someone who hasn't done this sort of thing before could do it. I just can't see spending $60 or more for a "Web Data Package" that is no more than a cable, and then another $30 for the Markspace (I could deal with the cost of this if the other cable weren't so expensive).

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Well, to be frank, the Motorola data cable and markspace combo did not work for me (probably for the reasons that MarkEagle stated in the RS232 thread, e.g. the converter chip in the data cable couldn't get power). Anyway, neither my friend nor I had made cables before (we are software engineers, not EE types), but he picked up a soldering iron and we gave it a try. I think the biggest hurdle is that the pins on the motorola connector are very tiny, and so it's a little painstaking. Good luck!

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Question for linda

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Originally posted by lscline

lennonhead,

I'm using my Prism with a CDMA phone (Motorola Timeport 8767) and Verizon, and it works perfectly, without having to get the Verizon WebAccess service. We made a cable using MarkEagle's info from the RS232 thread (thanks guys!), that is, taking a charger cable (not the datacable) and a Visor USB sync cable and creating one. I think the only problem would be if you dropped out of digital range.

Linda



Linda:

Does the Timeport 8767 have modem capability? I was under the impression that with Verizon you either had to have a modem in the Visor or the phone and last time I checked they weren't available. Is the 8767 a new phone with this capability?

What dialer and surfing software do you use? What ISP and is it hard to set up?

Thanks in advance for any additional input you may provide.

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westhouston,

The Timeport 8767 does not have a modem built in. A modem is only needed to convert a digital signal to an analog signal. (Note- some services like Sprint have modems in their network, which require you to use their data service) With Verizon's CDMA, if you use the phone in digital mode, you don't need a modem. I set up a serial to modem connection and use it in a network configuration that dials my ISP (just my local ISP) and connects using PPP. For this stuff, I'm just using what's available in the Palm 3.5 OS (Network and Connections Prefs) and it's easy to set up. For surfing, I've tried the PQAs from the Palm Mobile Internet Kit and Avantgo, and it all seems to work fine. Haven't used it enough to develop preferences for one browser over another. The MIK comes with Multimail, which I've been able to use to send and receive email. Believe me, I understand why it's all so confusing. The cellphone services all seem to do data stuff differently, and I'm not even sure that all services that use the same protocol are consistent. Plus, the salestaff and customer service usually don't have all the answers when it comes to data. Frankly, this board has been the best source of information, but the info is relevant mainly when what you are trying to do exactly matches what someone has posted about. Anyway, I hope this info helps you.

Linda

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Contact NYSEBULL from this forum. He built mine (~$30) and it connects my Visor DLX to my StarTac 7868 to browse wirelessly. There is no additional charge for a Verizon webaccount, I use my current ISP, dial in and download emails or browse around.

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Lightbulb Using Verizon Phone as Modem

Go check out the web site for the Kyocera 2035a ( http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/200...2000_series.htm )phone (otherwise known as Qualcomm) which is featured @ Verizon service centers. I have been searching for a way to access the web with my Visor Deluxe ever since someone decided to screw us over by making these wireless modem modules incompatible. Anyway, there are basically two solutions that I have found, but I think I've decided on the following.

Since I already use Verizon and own the 2035a, I am leaning towards trying out the data cable which is made specifically for the 2000 series Qualcomm phones because they say it will work when connected to a PDA via a serial cradle. Check out the link:
http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/sup...p2000_modem.htm . No specific mention of compatibility w/HS PDA's but I can't see why it wouldn't.

As far as the actual connection, should the above method actually work, you can use your minutes on the Verizon plan. You would just need a service provider that would allow CDMA transmission. At least that is what I am getting from the information posted @ the Kyocera site. When I have time this week I will try purchasing a serial cradle and take it to the Verizon dealer and attempt the hookup in the store before I actually buy the cable. Of course I'll post my findings

The other option would be use the data cable for my phone and the markspace data cable. That will be a secondary option if the above doesn't work.

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Here is a site that has a manual on how to connect to the internet using a palm. Even though the instructions are for a Kyocera phone, most of the information applies to all phones and palms.


http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/pdf...nect_manual.pdf

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