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Posted by prometheus on 10-05-2001 04:51 AM:

Question Am I weird?

I've had my blue VDX since 10/99, and I still haven't bought any Springboards. The closest I came was a SoundsGood, but I ended up buying a stand alone. I may go for the MemPlug for storing Mapopolis maps or a GPS, but I really use the VDX for the basic functions. I wouldn't mind using the Eyemodule 2, but there's not much memory left after the maps and AvantGo, and the screen isn't color. The reason that I chose the Visor in the first place was for the expandability, but I'm surprised that I haven't felt the need to buy any Springboards.

Is there anyone else who owns a Visor and no Springboards?

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Posted by recordond on 10-05-2001 06:13 AM:

I did for a while until Matchbook drives was liquidating and then I got one for $11 including shipping. Even though I have it now I rarely use it.

--David


Posted by utz on 10-05-2001 06:33 AM:

I am in the same boat. I have had my Visor for almost 2 years, and I don't have any Springboards. I wish I would have got the Backup module when I first bought my Visor, but now I don't think I will be staying with the Visor.

I originally bought the Visor for many reason, and the promise of expandability was just one of them. It is hard to remember now, but the Visor was a revolutionary product for a lot of reasons (memory, colors, price, etc). I have been very disappointed in the Springboard makers. The modules have been too expensive, and with a few exceptions, have been more about the Wow factor than real usability. No matter how much we want to believe otherwise, MP3 players are nitch products. The Soundsgood was a great product, and I think that company is a good company. They obviously have the skills to produce good modules. I think they just chose a stupid module to make. In my opinion CF expansion should have been the first module after the backup module, followed closely by modems and ethernet modules.

Back to why I am not buying modules now. After using my Visor everyday, I really want something smaller, and I just don't think any PDA with a Springboard slot can get much smaller. I hope Handspring comes out with the product I am looking for, cause I like their products.

Having said all that (and going on for some time), the Prism with Documents to Go and a VisorPhone for $300 is tempting me. I think it is too big though.

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Posted by ernieba1 on 10-05-2001 12:15 PM:

I have no modules. I want modules. Here's the modules I want:

Backup module,
Stepkeeper Pedometer module,
Massage module (did you see that???),
Wireless Ethernet module.

But I'm probably not getting anything, because I'm to cheap to pay for any of it. Got better things to pay for (like styli).

P.S. I found out in Latin class today that ancient Romans used styli to write on wax paper. Stylus is actually the Roman word for pencil.

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Posted by yardie on 10-05-2001 12:25 PM:

R U serious?

quote:
Originally posted by ernieba1
I have no modules. I want modules. Here's the modules I want:

Backup module,
Stepkeeper Pedometer module,
Massage module (did you see that???),
Wireless Ethernet module.


P.S. I found out in Latin class today that ancient Romans used styli to write on wax paper. Stylus is actually the Roman word for pencil.



Are you serious about the Masage Module and StepKeeper Module? What use would have for these? I couldn't imagine biying any of these products and I am a big Springboard fan.


Posted by chitown on 10-05-2001 03:01 PM:

The three problems with springboards:
1. Cost
2. Cost
3. Cost

There's some fine springboards available, but peripherals that are priced at such a large ratio to the base product are limited in perceived value.


Posted by creole on 10-05-2001 05:47 PM:

ernieba1...

It wasn't wax paper. It was a clay tablet with a wax top. They could write on it, then smooth it out when they needed it again. Pretty cool eh?


Posted by sowens on 10-05-2001 06:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chitown
The three problems with springboards:
1. Cost
2. Cost
3. Cost

There's some fine springboards available, but peripherals that are priced at such a large ratio to the base product are limited in perceived value.



Well, the company does have to make up it's R&D costs some how, and there are really two ways to do that:

1) Sell volume at a low price, or
2) Sell small volume at a high price.

Given that HS is, what, 40% of the market (I think that's generous, but I don't have the figures handy), and that not all Visor owners need or want Springboards, the companies that develop Springboards are stuck in a catch-22. In order to recoup costs, companies need to sell at a reasonably high price, given that Springboards are a niche market. However, pricing Springboards that high means that consumers aren't likely to buy them due to the high price relative to similar solutions.

Not an Rx for a winning business plan, IMHO.

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Posted by culo77 on 10-05-2001 11:34 PM:

Well i dont own any springboards modules for one reason only. i dont know if i am going to stay with handspring. I had a VDX then went to the edge cause its so small. butt the damn edge gets no support from handspring or third-party suppliers. i Would buy the
Eyemodule2
some kind of memory expansion
presenter to go
and
visorphone
but like i said if i cant even get a keyboard for the dang thing i am going to find another company that has PDA's this small with accessories.


Posted by ByinHi on 10-08-2001 09:52 AM:

If you must know-

The answer to your question is YES.


Posted by mnartker on 10-14-2001 12:44 AM:

Good news...

quote:
Originally posted by chitown
The three problems with springboards:
1. Cost
2. Cost
3. Cost

There's some fine springboards available, but peripherals that are priced at such a large ratio to the base product are limited in perceived value.

I think somewhere there's a VisorPhone with your name on it.


Posted by ernieba1 on 10-14-2001 04:32 AM:

Ummmm, service can be expensive, especially if you already HAVE a cell phone a a non-GSM plan.

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Posted by PastaGrrrl on 11-10-2001 12:52 AM:

Me too!

One of the main reasons I bought a VPL was because of the Springboard slot. I thought I'd be using Springboards left and right. Not! I haven't even used up the 8 megs yet. Although the SoundsGood sounds good, I think it's a little pricey for what it is.

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Posted by homer on 11-10-2001 03:46 AM:

Pastagirl:

Congrats on getting out of the design industry.

Thinking of heading that way myself...

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Posted by DingoFish on 11-10-2001 03:21 PM:

Matchbook drive

The only module I felt compelled to buy was the Matchbook Drive and a 16 MB CF card. Since I was too cheap to get a Deluxe, the Visor's 2 MB got filled real quick . The Matchbook and Silver Screen and Kopsis VFSHelper and I have about 8 MB of apps - although I always keep about 500k free to move the apps in and out.

Other than that, price has kept me from investing too much, I tend to upgrade my toys way too often to invest too much $$.


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