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Posted by jonecool on 01-05-2002 05:58 AM:

TREO or Visor?

The Handspring TREO is rumored to arrive in or around Jan 14th. At first glance, this device looks to be the "Killer App" or shall I say "Killer Device" for the avid cellphone/PDA user. The reviewers all seem to agree. Some unwilling to part with their preview units.

The only things I can see immediately lacking in the initial TREO 180 line (k/g) Hardware is: Expandability, Color and Flash Upgradability. Of course, there is additional cost which is still slightly less than that of many high-end PDA's (Including the Clie/PPC's and around the same price point as the m505). The color unit will be addressed later this year (April-June I believe I've read-but at a much higher cost).

I'm curious what the rest of VC user's are thinking about this device. I've read multiple threads here at VC that consider the Springboard a failure. While I disagree with this theory (I own quite a few, so I'm partial), I would be interested in knowing how many VC users would consider moving to the TREO without any expansion potential in the future. I'm considering it myself, but will likely not part with my Prism due to the Springboard slot and my multitude of modules (I hope HS plans on an expansion Sled for the TREO's HotSync port).

While the device combines a PDA into a phone, will this be enticing enough for you to move from your existing PDA? Will you be holding out for the Color TREO 270? Will you skip on over to the Sony Clie product line? Will you stick with your current model for a few more years?

I'm just curious to see what the VC readers think of this device. I know it's tough considering none (or very few) have ever seen or held the device, but I thought it would be fun to ask this question before it hit's the shelves later this month. We can later compare the results of this discussion after we've had a chance to check it out in person.

Best to all and Happy New Year!

Posted by Gameboy70 on 01-05-2002 06:41 AM:

As much as I want the Treo right now, I'm going to resist temptation and hold out for (1) the color 270, (2) a substantial price reduction on the SPCS Digital Link module, or the ideal (3): a CDMA Treo. Cingular's rate plans in LA are simply not competitive enough with Sprint PCS for me to switch. But considering the popularity of Cingular in these parts, I think the Treo will do well.

I love Springboards, but regard them as attractive and useful options, not necessities. If I have to carry one device around, it would be the Treo. But I'd still keep the Prism for landline and 802.11b home use. The instant-on Prism is usually more convenient for checking email on my dial-up account than using a desktop or a laptop.

Since Handspring does plan to OEM a CDMA Treo, I can wait (probably until September for monochrome, next January for color).

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Posted by Techie2000 on 01-05-2002 06:40 PM:

I'm personally going to keep my Vdx for another year or so while I wait to see what happens with that ultra cool looking Sharp Zaurus and hoping another color Visor comes out...

Posted by Zilog on 01-08-2002 06:30 PM:

I checked out the Sharp Zaurus SL-5000D and that sucker is BAD! My only complaint is that it's not using the Palm OS, but Linux based Embedix from Lineo.

Anyway - Check it out.

http://developer.sharpsec.com/jindex.cfm

http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/M...058,699,00.html

I'm also holding out for another color Visor.

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Posted by timbond on 01-08-2002 06:57 PM:

Personally, I love the idea of the Treo, especially the flip cover and small size, but I'll stick with my Prism w/VisorPhone for the time being because Treo isn't GPRS capable yet. I can surf using my own ISP and dialing-in on Voicestream now, so, except for size and the flip, the Treo wouldn't offer much in the way of upgrade.

I'm am not worried about the lack of Springboard because the only module I use is the VisorPhone. I also don't really care if I have a keyboard or not because I am comfortable with graffiti and the on-screen keyboard.

Posted by waynorth on 01-08-2002 07:33 PM:

I switched to the Clie 760c and Nokia 8290 with Voicestream from a Prism with Omnisky (RIP). I can use the IR port to get e-mail and internet. I love the Clie. Size, feel, color, MP3 playback, LI-ion, and the jog-dial make it a winner for me. Expansion slots are the only way to do things. The Handera 330 has it down on expansion, with a color version coming out in late Jan or Feb. At that point they will have PAN, LAN and WAN through a PDA at a consumer price. The Sony has missed out on having a second expansion slot so far in the US. There is a CF sled available in Japan.

I am surprised that HS did not do some kind of expansion slot for the TREO ie; SD/MMC, but then they would be saying that Palm was right...

I will be seeing the Treo this weekend at the Houston Palm User Group and may change my mind, but I will have to wait until color if I make the leap. Even if I do, the Sony will still accompany me on visits to clients as it has the best color screen for a Palm OS unit so far.

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Posted by PDAENVY on 01-08-2002 08:16 PM:

Re: TREO or Visor?

quote:
Originally posted by jonecool
The only things I can see immediately lacking in the initial TREO 180 line (k/g) Hardware is: Expandability, Color and Flash Upgradability.

Don't forget screen size! While the screen will still be 160x160, the pixels (and hence the screen) are smaller than those in the Visor family.

quote:
Originally posted by timbond
...the Treo wouldn't offer [me] much in the way of upgrade...

There are a couple of benefits you might have missed: 8 additional MB of memory (16MB total), built-in speakerphone, "Jog rocker with push select".

And for VDX/VP users (like me) , there's more reasons to switch: one built-in rechargable battery for both phone & PDA, 33Mhz processor, Palm OS 3.5.2H with true support for 4-bit (16 levels) greyscale.

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Posted by timbond on 01-08-2002 09:05 PM:

Re: Re: TREO or Visor?

quote:
Originally posted by PDAENVY
There are a couple of benefits you might have missed: 8 additional MB of memory (16MB total), built-in speakerphone, "Jog rocker with push select".

And for VDX/VP users (like me) , there's more reasons to switch: one built-in rechargable battery for both phone & PDA, 33Mhz processor, Palm OS 3.5.2H with true support for 4-bit (16 levels) greyscale.

Good points. The rechargeable battery did occur to me, but the other things did not.

I would like a speakerphone, but what I'd really like is voice dialing, which the Treo doesn't have. I think I'd be fine with a smaller screen, but not sure how I'd like to give up color since I've only had a Prism.

One other benefit I'm supposing the Treo will have is more accessory options made especially for it. You can't walk into a store and buy a belt-clip case for a VisorPhone, so I was trying to decide between the CaseTechWorks and Vaja cases. I finally found an inexpensive Jansport cellphone pouch ($7.99) that does the trick and costs lots less. I'm guessing that the Treo will have a car charger cable available, but Handspring never made a car charger for the Prism or the VisorPhone, but I did find a third-party cable that charges both (and hasn't killed them, either - I am not a fan of third-party power cables).

Posted by yardie on 01-09-2002 04:31 AM:

Me Switching

I will be trading in my Prism, VisorPhone and other modules for Treo. The Treo is what I what I was looking for in a PDA all along. I do not need voice dialling. I have had phone with this feature in the past and never use it. I always find it easier and faster to just dial the number. With the speed dial and jog rocker n the Treo, dialling will be even speedier. It would be nice if the Treo had a small slot for memory. But I suspect that this will come in future versions. I dont think that a springboard slot would be appropriate on a Treo. I also dont think that people should be expecting to add GPS etc to the unit. It is after all a phone first and a PDA second.

Posted by culo77 on 01-09-2002 07:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Zilog
I checked out the Sharp Zaurus SL-5000D and that sucker is BAD! My only complaint is that it's not using the Palm OS, but Linux based Embedix from Lineo.

Anyway - Check it out.

http://developer.sharpsec.com/jindex.cfm

http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/M...058,699,00.html

I'm also holding out for another color Visor.

-Z-

That sucker is more than bad, i is the badest!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got to play with one of the pre-production (or pre final release ones) For a long time...not long enough though!!!!!!

The sound quality is awesome, better than some Mp3 players.

the only thing its PPC size. but its woth the dual slots.

Believe you me, and here these words......Use a Zaurus once and your stylus hand will love you for alon time.

Back to if i am going to by a TREO... hahahahahhahhaahahhahhah..and
hahahhahahahahhahaahha
Nope not this year. Or even the color one unless i gets some kind of expansion...

But i do Hope it Sell like butter on popcorn, Cause i think HS is a kick azz company!!!!!!

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Posted by PDAENVY on 01-09-2002 09:41 PM:

Re: Re: Re: TREO or Visor?

quote:
Originally posted by timbond
...One other benefit I'm supposing the Treo will have is more accessory options made especially for it. You can't walk into a store and buy a belt-clip case for a VisorPhone, so I was trying to decide between the CaseTechWorks and Vaja cases. I finally found an inexpensive Jansport cellphone pouch ($7.99) that does the trick and costs lots less. I'm guessing that the Treo will have a car charger cable available, but Handspring never made a car charger for the Prism or the VisorPhone...

Yep.Look at Handspring Treo accessories here.

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