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Posted by jonecool on 03-28-2001 08:35 PM:

Exclamation Most likely preparing for a New Model

Good is probably preparing to release a new SoundsGood model (Only speculating, not trying to start a rumor).

It sounds like this will be their lead-in to a higher-capacity MP3 Player. Just like all other Palm Devices today, prices drop, new models come to market. Nothing new here.

I'm a gadget person myself and have eye'ed the SoundsGood MP3 player at every trip to Staples. However, I just couldn't see shelling out $269 for only 1hour of play-time. $149 is a bit more tempting though and making it all the more difficult for me to hold-out.

Still, I'll probably hold out until a higher-capacity SoundsGood model is released. I travel allot and most flights are long-distance, one hour would be a pretty boring trip and really doesn't justify the expense for me.

If Good doesn't release a higher-capacity model, I'm sure someone else will (excluding Innogear's model, which for me is too bulky).

Springboards are still relatively new technologies that are gaining momentum. It's an exciting time to be adicted to gadgetry


Posted by TimberLake on 03-28-2001 08:52 PM:

youll be waiting a looooooooonnnngggggg time


Posted by Nutcase on 03-28-2001 11:45 PM:

how so TimberLake? I also kinda want a soundsgood, but one with more memory, or an expansion slot (or both). Mac or BeOS support would be good as well (I can imagine mac happening, but BeOS is a long shot)

I have been waiting for quite a while to get a mp3 module, and relying on my rio300se in the meantime. The MiniJam is too big (irony is sweet) and the soundsgood isnt expandable.

What to do....

Oh well, I have my fingers crossed. (and it's making typing very difficult )


Posted by TimberLake on 03-28-2001 11:55 PM:

I say hard drive based MP3 players are the way to go -- 10gb leave a LOT of room for tons of tunes!


Posted by meitsjustme on 03-29-2001 12:29 AM:

Arrow Ordered one.....

=) got the order put thru last night, Been eyeing it for sometime now, finally I can afford it. Sounds Too Good to miss! =P the second email PalmGear sent to me says its backordered, so they are not clearing their stock... but the expected in stock date field in the email is empty, anyone else got this? Has anyone got an actuall date?

PS. If the price drop comes from SoundsGood, why isn't any other places droping price?

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Posted by zieak on 03-29-2001 02:20 AM:

great price for a great product.

I bought one last night and got an email that it was shipped today. I already own one and the nw one will be for my wife. The only thing I didn't like about the SG was that I couldn't upload music from the module to the computer. Come to find out that I can. Not only that but you can rename any file .mp3 and move it onto the module and upload it and rename it back to its original name. Viola! Instant zip drive. I'm kind of bummed about spending the full amount on the module just a few months ago too but I'll admit that I'm really pleased with it.


Posted by bolson on 03-29-2001 02:48 AM:

I ordered mine 3 pm 3/28/2001 CST and it is on its way from PG 2nd email.

I think PG is doing like it always seems to do--slash prices on hot items to drive demand and traffic to their site. Ever since they began selling things way back when, they always had a habit of dramatically marking down palm pilots, they were one of the first e-tailers to drop the price of the palm V below $375!

This is palms way of getting some viewership from HS customers to its website. Plus I think they realize that the perfect price point for a mp3 module is ~$100-$150. Very few people are likely to spend more than the price of their PDA on a simple mp3 player and I'm sure sales records will prove this (burst of sales when released and then dramatic falloff in sales once the "gotahavits" get it)

Either way, PG hit my price point to buy, and I'm excited--mp3's on the go without a second thing to carry!!!!


Posted by meitsjustme on 03-29-2001 03:06 AM:

Unhappy That was not fair! =(

I ordered it right after I read this thread, your order are on their way now, mine doesn't even have a expected in stock date! I was the first to reply to this thread! =P I guess that wasn't early enough then....... =(

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Posted by purplemd on 03-29-2001 06:51 AM:

Thumbs up For $50 more you can get the expandable MiniJam

You know...the minijam MP3 springboard is expandable and $199. It was supposed to expire on 3/15 but will be going on "while supplies last."

The $199 version comes with a 64 MB smartmedia card and you can then buy as many cards of various sizes as you like.

So far I have 3 SmartMedia cards for my cheapie rio player...I buy the refurbished ones.


Posted by bkbk on 03-29-2001 12:30 PM:

Re: soundsgood and visor

quote:
Originally posted by dalamar70
<snip> seem[s] like the Visor is only supplying a redundant user interface and batteries.
I don't see any information in reviews about whether it's even possible to rearrange your playlist on the Visor, or if you have to go back to MusicMatch on the PC. I don't suppose you can use the MP3 player memory for other purposes.
It seems like the biggest advantage is just having one less thing to carry, and a lighter unit since it leeches batteries from somewhere else. The price is now pretty competitive as far as MP3 players go, though.



I agree about the UI prob. being the best reason for an integrated MP3 -- but this is no small deal!
Worst thing is (IMHO), it seems that almost no SBs REALLY MAKE USE of this #1 integ. feature! (Only EM1 & EM2 do, I guess.)
TO KICK BUTT on the comp. (incl. HD MP3s), this is like the only way to go. I'd think a MUST would be re-arranging, naming, etc. of songs. And what about that spec that was supposed to deliver all the lyrics & liner notes w/every song? I'd think HS MP3 mfg. would kill to get this in asap!

OTHER STUFF, TOO, that SW dev. should be thinking of on their own: like graphics that run on the screen while the MP3 plays -- maybe one of those "lava-lamps" from the '60s, for ex., and other (uh, even better) ideas to MAXIMIZE THE UI.

My $.02, anyway...

FWIW, I was just in a CompUSA in NYC yesterday and saw the SoundsGood there.
I didn't check on the price, though.

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Posted by visor mania on 03-29-2001 04:34 PM:

Thumbs up price is a good as the product

The PalmGear price is awesome! I'll probably buy another one for a buddy. SoundsGood is my favorite module without a doubt and I love reading and playing CD quality music on my Visor. I can take books on CD and make them into MP3 and zip to any point in the book with the slider bar. Can't do that with a nonVisor player or can you?


Posted by TimberLake on 03-29-2001 06:11 PM:

Regarding Visor Manias comment

"The PalmGear price is awesome! I'll probably buy another one for a buddy. SoundsGood is my favorite module without a doubt and I love reading and playing CD quality music on my Visor. I can take books on CD and make them into MP3 and zip to any point in the book with the slider bar. Can't do that with a nonVisor player or can you?"


Why would you need to buy one when I am sure you get an employee discount


Posted by donjaun on 03-29-2001 07:44 PM:

Minjam

The soundsgood doesnt even come close to compareing to Minjam -- any day there will be 128mb MMC cards available.I think they were due to come out this month. That means the Minijam will hold over 256mb of music storage! Thats over 4 hours of music compared to less then an hour...I dont care how small the size of the soundsgood -- you will spend most of your time changeing your music selection. Also with MMC cards becomeing so cheap you can just keep your music on the cards and slip in the one you want to hear. The Minijam is future proof -- it will grow with you.


Posted by CartWheelSally on 03-29-2001 09:20 PM:

I Agree with DonJoan

I agree with DONJAUN..... I cant imagine my MP3 player without the ability to upgrade with MMC cards,I dont have a module mp3 player but a standalone with one MMC slot and the ability to be able purchase more cards is great - wish my standalone had two MMC slots

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Posted by Rob on 03-29-2001 09:21 PM:

Post Re: Minjam

quote:
Originally posted by donjaun
I dont care how small the size of the soundsgood -- you will spend most of your time changeing your music selection. Also with MMC cards becomeing so cheap you can just keep your music on the cards and slip in the one you want to hear. The Minijam is future proof -- it will grow with you.


If you are going to spend most of your time changing your music selection, go with the SoundsGood. It's 7 times faster at loading MP3 files than the MiniJam (but wait! Innogear has graciously offered to charge you $40 for the ability to load songs at ONLY 2.7 TIMES SLOWER THAN THE SOUNDSGOOD with the 'Speed' Loader). You are right about one thing -- if you own a MiniJam, you will need to have lots of MMC cards (at $100 a pop) to hold your different songs because after sitting for hours loading up your MMC cards, you will never want to re-load them again! With a SoundGood, you can swap in a new hours worth of music every day in about 4-1/2 minutes. Plus, the buttons, volume dial, Palm GUI and Desktop GUI on the SoundsGood is much cleaner and easier to use.

As for the Minijam being future proof, the only thing Innogear has proven is that they are good at making announcements and promises about the future and NEVER delivering on them (or are you now happily using your MMC cards to store docs and other palm files like Innogear promised you would be able to? I didn't think so).

By the way, I have both a SoundsGood and a MiniJam, although the latter is gathering dust, primarily because of the speed issue.


Posted by meitsjustme on 03-30-2001 03:56 AM:

Talking Another email from PalmGear...........

It says......SoundsGood has been shipped! =)
eagerly awaits..... =)

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Posted by digitalhand on 03-30-2001 06:20 PM:

Talking

Does Palmgear provide tracking number when I use global priority mail? Anybody here are charged duties if you are not in the States?


Posted by patwoods on 03-30-2001 07:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kepstein
Is there any software available to get the SG to work with a Mac?


I use mine with my Mac and Virtual PC with Win98. Works fine, it even still transfers faster through emulation than the Minijam does onto the Speedloader. At work on my G4 I get 64MB downloaded onto it in about 5-6 mins... At home on my slower G3 it takes about 7-8 mins... but still a great deal if you have VPC.

I chatted with the folks at Good at some length when I was debating taking it back (Xmas gift) and they actually told me to return it as they couldn't formally support my setup. I took the chance with VPC and got it to work fine. If you have VPC and Win98, it's a good deal, I personally think.. I love mine.

At $149 they are worth every penny...


Posted by critic on 03-30-2001 08:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by patwoods


I use mine with my Mac and Virtual PC with Win98. Works fine, it even still transfers faster through emulation than the Minijam does onto the Speedloader. At work on my G4 I get 64MB downloaded onto it in about 5-6 mins... At home on my slower G3 it takes about 7-8 mins... but still a great deal if you have VPC.

I chatted with the folks at Good at some length when I was debating taking it back (Xmas gift) and they actually told me to return it as they couldn't formally support my setup. I took the chance with VPC and got it to work fine. If you have VPC and Win98, it's a good deal, I personally think.. I love mine.

At $149 they are worth every penny...



You see, it's that attitude that I don't understand. Why can't they support the Mac? SoundJam and iTunes already have the ability to send tracks to an MP3 player - why is it so difficult for Good to have a plug-in written for SJ/iT with the same functionality?

As for the VirtualPC solution, I'm running an old Performa 6400 (don't laugh - I got it NEW for $1200 with a printer and montior back in '96) with a G3 upgrade card. My system is stable enough, but I hesitate to think what a PC emulator would do to my fragile setup. Not to mention the fact that my system's USB is not native - I had installed a PCI USB card about 2 years ago - so who knows if USB would even function in emulation.

Considering how long the SoundsGood has been available, I'm hoping there's an SG2 in the works. I'm also hoping they will wisely support the Mac minority. But I'll tell you this - I REFUSE to go to MiniJam. I'll throw myself in Newark Harbor before I use MiniJam.


Posted by patwoods on 03-30-2001 08:32 PM:

Performa 6400

Dude, I have a powerbase with G3 card and a USB card. The SG works fine with that setup no problem. Your 6400 is the same motherboard as mine so I know it would work fine for you as well..

I can sympathize somewhat with Good in that they need to dedicate resources to programming Mac software that would largely never recoup the cost.... not that I am happy but I understand.

In the meantime the vpc solution actually works well for me, especially since I can save the PC state and 'boot up' to the windows desktop snapshot with the Good Desktop running, in about 15 sec or so.

But maybe that's just me. Maybe if there is a SGII they will have mac coders working on drivers...


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