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I'm starting to get suspicious:

First
25% rebate
Then
$100 w/ trade-in
NOW
A free $40 hardcase!

That's $240 of incentives for us to buy a formerly $400 product. Are they reducing inventory, or flat out discontinuing the mono Edge?

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That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.

I dont' think they're discontinuing the edge. It's really popular still. IGN even gave it a 9/10 which supposedly is their highest score for a PDA yet!

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I think you have your discounts mixed up. 25% off the price is the $100 trade-in rebate. And where did you find a free hardcase?

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Nevermind about the case. I hadn't read the latest news. Too bad our local OfficeMax hasn't jumped on it.

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Remember, the $100 off and the free hard case can't be combined. The hard case deal is only at retailers; the $100 Trade-in deal is only on Handspring's web site.

Now the $99 Visor Phone with the Edge can be had together. That's the best deal yet, although I think that's about where the prices shoud have been in the first place.

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Originally posted by dick-richardson
I think you have your discounts mixed up. 25% off the price is the $100 trade-in rebate.

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Remember, the $100 off and the free hard case can't be combined. The hard case deal is only at retailers; the $100 Trade-in deal is only on Handspring's web site.

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Originally posted by slotmachine
Are you the leprechaun, or the guy that tied him there?

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Here's the original picture (from whence my avatar came). It's an ad for an insurance company ("what are you doing to plan for retirement?").

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I have to admit I'm a little irritated at these promotions myself. The hardcase offer is only good for Edges bought in stores from yesterday until the end of the month. I /want/ a hardcase, but I'm not sure about spending 40 bucks for something I might not even like. As for the $100 off, here's another offer that isn't retroactive. It's almost as if HS is punishing its most devoted customers for buying their products soon after they come out. Opinions?

Ha Ha

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Originally posted by dick-richardson

Depends on the day.

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Hmmm

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Originally posted by mhat
I have to admit I'm a little irritated at these promotions myself. The hardcase offer is only good for Edges bought in stores from yesterday until the end of the month. I /want/ a hardcase, but I'm not sure about spending 40 bucks for something I might not even like. As for the $100 off, here's another offer that isn't retroactive. It's almost as if HS is punishing its most devoted customers for buying their products soon after they come out. Opinions?

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Originally posted by yardie
And here I thought the leprechaun was BBlue

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Re: Re: Ha Ha

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Originally posted by Toby


heh...I think people overestimate bblue's impact on both d-r and myself (and others as well probably).

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Exactly. The most effort I ever put into a discussion on the internet was during my argument with Toby on political correctness, and most of that was pulling out the dictionary to figure out what the hell he was saying .

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Originally posted by Toby
I think I'm going to have to look that one up, though, because I don't seem to recall it.

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Originally posted by dick-richardson

Here you go.

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hmm...I evidently forgot about that one and never finished it. C'est la vie.

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Originally posted by dick-richardson

Would you like to pick up where we left off? Think the server could handle it?

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Back to the original Q

What is going on with the edge is simply market forces.

First there is an economic slowdown...

Then Palm bungles the release of the M50x series. Everyon stops buying Palm's other products to wait the 6-8weeks for the M50x. Palm had to start deep discounting to clear excess inventory to a) sell product at all, b) keep their supplier chain happy by moving out the older products to replace with the new.

THEN, Handera and more significantly, Sony release their latest generation of products which perform arguably better than anything Palm or Handspring has in a base unit. So the item that Palm was counting on to bring them back to profitability has some very stiff competition for the fewer PDA buyers in this market willing to pay for a high end device. If you can get past the form factor, the Sony is a far better device than the M505. So, Palm has to start dropping price on the M505 to keep their inventory turning over.

What does this mean for edge? ANyone willing and able to pay the full MSRP for edge is also able to do so for Handera, M505, Clie700c. The last two units have compelling reasons to purchase them -- check em out if you haven't already. Edge has a great form factor, but lacks the color even though its MSRP is equivalent to the other two. If Handspring wants to keep turning inventory, they too will have to discount because the edge is arguably a slightly lesser product (just compare hardware features please, edge will come up short for the average user who may only purchase one springboard -- ROM software hardly counts since there are far better products available to all units). And remember, where Palm was profitable, and could easily be again; Handspring is not yet profitable. Everyone is talking doom and gloom for Palm, but I think Handspring's situation is slipping under the radar of most industry analysts.

ALthough it is generally accepted that Handspring had been moving in the right direction vis a vis profitability, this is not the economic environment Dubinsky had been counting on. Especially given Palm's inventory problems. In order to retain market share, let alone growth in market share Handspring must discount to match Palm. To compete for the same high end buyers as Palm/Sony, Handspring needs either a color product in Edge form, or powerful color unit a la Clie. However this would not be a good time to roll one out because they simply would not sell enough of them given the economy and competition. INtroducing this unit would drastically cut into sales of B/W edge and Prism -- of which there is a lot of inventory globally. A bloated product line would further delay the all important "becoming profitable."

So what is up with the edge? A tough marketplace.

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What is going on with the edge is simply market forces.
[...]So what is up with the edge? A tough marketplace.

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