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Posted by b1lanceman on 03-12-2001 07:52 PM:

is anyone here getting a new visor edge? I really think its a good deal, i dont know whether its gonna be better than the palm m500 series, but it sure as heck blows clie and Vx out of the water


Posted by foo fighter on 03-12-2001 08:09 PM:

Cool Sweeeeet!!!

Just ordered mine!

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Posted by lennonhead on 03-12-2001 08:25 PM:

I'm seriously craving one of these! I don't know if I'll get one or not, but I like the sound of that new better screen! The most important thing however is whether I can use my Stowaway with it or not? Lost the web feed, so I'm not sure if he went over this or not. At the very least I hope they can make some sort of connector, if not then I'm not getting one.

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Posted by Ash on 03-12-2001 08:34 PM:

New screen? I didn't see anything on their site about a new screen.

I was really tempted, but I don't like the expansion option. I keep my Innopak 2/V in my Visor at all times and I don't want to get stuck with an Edge plus expansion sled plus module all the time. If they'd added more memory or a vibrating alarm I'd be a lot more interested in the Edge. I also don't like the fact that you have to remove the flip cover to attach the springboard expansion module. It'd be really nice if they could come up with a universal cradle instead of designing a new one for each product. I like having a cradle at work and one at home, but that makes upgrading even more expensive when you have to replace all these accessories every time.

I do think the Edge is really cool and I'd love to own one, but I don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon. I'm going to see what the m500 and m505 look like before making any decisions. The graphite platinum is pretty cool too.


Posted by lennonhead on 03-12-2001 08:41 PM:

Yes it was mentioned by Jeff Hawkins in the webcast. The Edge sports an improved screen that looks more black and white than the previous models (green).

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Posted by RocketScientist on 03-12-2001 08:46 PM:

Taken from the Edge FAQ:

Q: What kind of display does the Visor Edge handheld use?

A: The Visor Edge handheld uses the same bright grayscale LCD display as Visor, Visor Deluxe and Visor Platinum handhelds. Visor Edge is based on Palm OS 3.5 and thus supports 4-bit grayscale (16 shades of gray) and provides sharper, crisper graphics than products using earlier versions of the Palm OS. Visor Edge also uses the same backlight feature as Visor, Visor Deluxe and Visor Platinum.


I guess that there is a conflict with the info. I did not get to watch the webcast, but this seems pretty clear that it is the same screen, and backlight. So, there might be something else that alters the look of it.

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Posted by lennonhead on 03-12-2001 08:50 PM:

Maybe I was just hoping for it to be true so much that I imagined it . No, he did say that, but now I'm wondering exactly what he meant by it? If that was just some sort of marketing ploy there is no way I'm going to get an Edge!

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Posted by foo fighter on 03-12-2001 08:52 PM:

Unhappy

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Originally posted by RocketScientist
Visor Edge also uses the same backlight feature as Visor, Visor Deluxe and Visor Platinum.


Well that's a disappointment. I was really hoping that Hawkins would get a clue as to how bad this "improved" backlight really is. Even SONY abandoned it. Oh well...

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Posted by RocketScientist on 03-12-2001 08:56 PM:

Reading it a little closer, it does say "backlight feature". A feature is not a technology, just an ability... so perhaps it has a backlight feature, using new technology. I am stretching it a little I think... but that is the fun of guessing about these things before you get the chance to see one for yourself.

I like Handspring, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt, and hope that the actual technology changed.
-Russ


Posted by b1lanceman on 03-12-2001 09:30 PM:

foo fighter, it seems like you have one of every new handheld that comes out, how rich are you? if they had a color one id trade in my IIIc and get one. but it looks like im gonna end up with an m505

but one problem i just read about on a pdabuzz thread is that maybe the seperate Edge and Springboard technology will scare people away from it because there will be less inclination to make springboard modules and more companies will divert their resouces to the edge


Posted by dennya on 03-12-2001 09:58 PM:

Actually, it looks like the screen is just a little better than the one on the Platinum; there's a bit more contrast between the black and the background. It's a VERY subtle difference, though.

Alas, it's the same wonky backlight as the other Visors and all the recent Palms.

b1lanceman, I don't think this is really going to harm the Springboard standard. You can create a Springboard and sell it to the entire Visor populace, or an Edge connector device and just sell it to the Edge owners. Certainly, there will be some Edge devices, but it's going to make a lot more sense for most developers to stick with the Springboard slot.

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Posted by RocketScientist on 03-12-2001 10:03 PM:

I don't see why there won't be a Springboard offered that has the Edge connectors also. Kinda like the backpack thing that the Edge uses, only goes the other way. I am sure it is not hard, and I would think that we would see soon after the Edge Connector devices start coming out.
-Russ


Posted by SpeakerCoach on 03-12-2001 10:04 PM:

Post Edge

The Edge looks nice. However, I purchased a VDX and a VPL this year. I would purchase the Edge only if Handspring allows current VPL owner to exchange theirs for a small fee (<$50.00).


Posted by Fat_Man on 03-12-2001 10:52 PM:

Re: Edge

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Originally posted by SpeakerCoach
The Edge looks nice. However, I purchased a VDX and a VPL this year. I would purchase the Edge only if Handspring allows current VPL owner to exchange theirs for a small fee (<$50.00).


I don't think that will ever happen. First of all, Handspring has no obligations to offer such a service. Even Palm inc., a company way bigger than Handspring, do not offer an exchange sevice.

I don't think the customer should expect that type of service, I mean we all know that technology is advancing at a rapid pace. Today's products will be obsolete in six months. When we decide to invest in a PDA (Palm or Handspring), it has become buy at our own risk because we all know that a new and better product is on the horizon. Like I said, we all went in knowing the risk.

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Posted by BudPritchard on 03-13-2001 01:39 AM:

Cool I'm patient, still will be waiting......

quote:
Originally posted by Fat_Man

.....Today's products will be obsolete in six months. When we decide to invest in a PDA (Palm or Handspring), it has become buy at our own risk because we all know that a new and better product is on the horizon. Like I said, we all went in knowing the risk.



Very true. I bought my VDX knowing full well the limitations of not having flash rom. At the time, availability of flash was limited. Handspring had to make a decision to wait or introduce the VDX.
Springboard concept still favors Handspring over Palm for me.
However, for $399, I want color and a resolution greater than 160x160.
I'll wait. My VDX serves me well. Of course, I may wait and wait and wait...... who knows?


Posted by Airmech on 03-13-2001 01:44 AM:

Cool

Looks like an EDGE when I get my profit sharing check on the 15th. Still can't decide on color though, at first I thought Blue but the red and silver are growing on me. Alas what to do!!


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Posted by yosemitesamiam on 03-13-2001 01:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Airmech
Looks like an EDGE when I get my profit sharing check on the 15th. Still can't decide on color though, at first I thought Blue but the red and silver are growing on me. Alas what to do!!


T.



Buy all three, and then give the one you don't like to me!!!





A guy has to try.......right?

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-13-2001 02:42 AM:

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Originally posted by yosemitesamiam


Buy all three, and then give the one you don't like to me!!!



I'll be willing to step in and take the other unit off your hands, just because I like to help out and like yosemitesamiam want you to get the best color you possibly can.

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Posted by MarkEagle on 03-13-2001 03:00 AM:

For the moment, the only way I'm going to get an Edge is if Marcus supplies the VC staff with 'em (hint, hint ).

Actually, it's very appealing to me... everything except the price! I, too, am going to hold out for the time being to see what comes along (can anyone say Snap and Twist?).

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Posted by mrstream on 03-13-2001 03:26 AM:

I just bought my VPL two weeks ago........I think I'm gonna go cry now. The Edge is VERY appealing to me, if the price drops I may have to snatch one up. But at $399, I agree that it should be color or have more memory. The flip kinda bugs me too....but the looks make up for sure :-)


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