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I have heard from a souce inside visor, that there will be a new visor being introduced early april. the looks are slim to be more like palm vx

Anyone else hate web morons as much as I? Just asking.
If you have a source inside a Visor you must be talking with your batteries. Visor isn't a company, Handspring is.

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If you have a source inside a Visor you must be talking with your batteries. Visor isn't a company, Handspring is.

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new visor

For you moron's just because I said visor insted of Handspring does not mean I don't know what I'm talking about.So when the new VISOR from HANDSPRING comes out in 30 days we will see who looks like a MORON!!!

I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about new Visors to compete with Palm's rumored color Vx. I wanted to buy color but I think that the Prism is too bulky. Anyone think that Handspring will soon be releasing a more compact version of the Prism or Platinum?

I am willing to wait if there is some hope on the horizon.

JDogg

I don't believe that anyone needs to call anyone else a moron on this site! VC is known for being a kinder & gentler board, so let's keep it that way!

I say to give what sdkramer has to say it due, and see what happens in April. I do believe that Handspring/Visor will have to respond to the new Palm's that are imminent.

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As to the product proposed - a Vx-sized Visor - I suppose that Handspring needs to fill out their product portfolio, but I wonder a couple things - 1. Can you fit a Springboard onto a unit that thin? 2. Is the smaller unit - with the presumably smaller screen size a la the Vx - preferable?

I'd like to see Handspring consider a unit with wireless and a LARGER screen - even as large as an 8.5x11 page, but no thicker than a Visor. If it's touch-screen and web-ready, I could see a lot of use for a wireless "web tablet". But that's my preference.

I would guess you could put a springboard connector in such a device, however it overall wouldn't be as thin as a Vx.. My guess is that it would be about as thick as a standard springboard (i.e. backup module). If they made it any thinner and tried to have a springboard slot (that is compatible with the current line of Visors), the springport would actually bulge out in the back. I think that would look funny. They may have opted to do away with the springboard and adopt the new SD style slot Palm is using.

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umm no..

Handspring WILL release a new visor (from my own assumptions. .there giving a rebate on Deluxe.. need comp. with Plam) BUT THEY WILL NEVER ABANDON THE SPRINGBOARD SLOT AT THIS STAGE.

lator on they might, but right now handspring has spent hundreds of thousands getting the springboard adopted.. SD would kill the company.

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umm no..

Handspring WILL release a new visor (from my own assumptions. .there giving a rebate on Deluxe.. need comp. with Plam) BUT THEY WILL NEVER ABANDON THE SPRINGBOARD SLOT AT THIS STAGE.

lator on they might, but right now handspring has spent hundreds of thousands getting the springboard adopted.. SD would kill the company.

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Originally posted by EricG
I would guess you could put a springboard connector in such a device, however it overall wouldn't be as thin as a Vx.. My guess is that it would be about as thick as a standard springboard (i.e. backup module). If they made it any thinner and tried to have a springboard slot (that is compatible with the current line of Visors), the springport would actually bulge out in the back.

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My point was they wouldn't eliminate it from the entire line, just the "slim" series.. But I like the idea of making the springboard slot a detachable accessory, like the way the omnisky modem is for the Palm V (a sled). That could work, I can see that.

There is the strong possibility of them supporting the SD slot the the m100 series uses.. It would make sense to do so. Maybe as an accessory as well.. hummm now that is really interesting..

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SD slot not true flash, I understand

My understanding of the SD technology is that it will not offer the same flash capability as SB modules (Hagiwara). You can store programs on an SD card, but in order to run programs on the Palm, you must have the necessary free memory ON THE PALM to do so. The idea is that these programs load into base Palm memory to run, then unload when no longer needed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

To me, this is a major drawback of SD tecnology. I prefer true flash as with Hagiwara, meaning I can store AND RUN programs directly from the SB.

Re: the IPAQ and sleeves, I've owned and used an IPAQ for a year now and have been really underwhelmed by the thing. I hate the idea of having to slip on my CF sleeve whenever I want to use a card. Also, the scary plastic sleeves add considerably to the bulk of the machine, meaning it no longer fits in the case and its relatively slimline profile is history once a sleeve is added.

HS got it right with the SB. It's built in, adds a little weight, but otherwise dimensions of device remain the same with SB module loaded. Somehow, I don't see Palm's SD slot being used in quite the same fashion as the SB on Visors. The larger SB seems to offer lots of room for innovation over the long haul, i.e. 250MB flash modules!!!! ;-)

/Steelkilt

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I've owned and used an IPAQ for a year now and have been really underwhelmed by the thing. I hate the idea of having to slip on my CF sleeve whenever I want to use a card. Also, the scary plastic sleeves add considerably to the bulk of the machine, meaning it no longer fits in the case and its relatively slimline profile is history once a sleeve is added.

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EricG inferred what I meant: a sled, not a sleeve. Those sleeves on the iPaq do add a lot of bulk to its profile, but like I said, a lot of users either use modules infrequently or not at all. So a detachable Springboard slot to preserve a slim profile most (or all) of the time would strike an ideal compromise between form and function.

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Gameboy you've got it right!

I'd go for a slimmer Handspring PDA with a detachable 'sled' for springboards. I use my 2 modules (backup and modem) so infrequently that the SB slot is pretty useless to me on the Visor 95% of the time.


Logic would state that they'd include the 'sled' with the unit, however economics ensures that it'll be an extra cost item. (funny that economics and logic contradict each other eh?)

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new Visor rumor

According to this post(English Translation) of the Hi-PDA.com discussion board, a new Visor is due to be introduced in april when Handspring opens up the Chinese market. The new Visor is gonna be about half of the thickness of current models. The support for Springboard will be accomplished by a 'sleeve' solution similar to iPaq models.

See the original post here

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Won't the sled defeat one of the main advantages of the springboard slot � the ability to have a springboard without taking up the USB connection on the bottom of the visor? If they're making a slim-line visor that costs over $300 we're talking about a higher percentage of people who are going to have a module and keyboard and are going to want to use both at the same time. If the new visor turns out to be something alongs the lines of the m100 (dear God please no) that'd be a different story.

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You could also just pass the USB connection thru the sled.. I could see them do it many different ways, some that block the USB connector and some that don't.. It does open a world of possibilities though.. there could be many types "sleds" made to provide various compatibility. I'd still think the question of, if the "springboard" sled would be included could be an item for debate.. the idea behind a "slim" handspring would be counter to the added thickness of a sled, I could see them very easily selling it as an optional accessory, ... Or including it.. it could really go either way. If you were marketing a product based on it apparent thinness, why would you showcase a device that adds thickness (and cost).. on the flip side, if you were focusing on backwards compatibility to the Visor line, then showcasing the sled would be a good idea, it really depends on what aspect of the product they want to "sell" to the public, if I had to bet, I'd say they would go for the thickness/color aspect over Visor compatibility.. (that would give a bigger OOOOHHH AHHHH factor to John Q. Public (non Visor owners) than to feature Visor compatibility)

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Who's to say the sled would connect through (and clog) the USB port the way sleeves work on other untis? What if they are developing a new connector on top of there thin visor so that you just connect the sleeve and Springboard away and still have the open USB on the bottom?

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