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Posted by Rob on 03-16-2001 04:37 PM:

Re: Thanks for supporting Memplug

quote:
Originally posted by PiDeveloper
...

Besides, we also has a developer area to encourage other developers to add Memplug's support in their application. It can be expected that more and more applications will be develop by 3rd party to support Memplug's user.

Thank you for supporting Memplug.
We will keep Memplug improving!

Thank YOU for both your excellent product (I just ordered one!) and for taking the time to read and respond to comments on this forum! I hope BlueNomad will add Memplug support for WordSmith (the best word processing app for PalmOS), because I have tons of large docs I'd love to offload from my Prism. Also, have you considered some kind of 'auto loader' capability similar to TRG's AutoCF functionality that automatically moves(copies?) apps from the Smartmedia card to the Visor when launched? I understand from reading the Kopsis CF Adapter mailing list that this is no easy task, but it sure would be a great feature!

Posted by Rob on 03-16-2001 04:53 PM:

Re: Re: Thanks for supporting Memplug

[oops...accidental re-post]

Posted by PiDeveloper on 03-17-2001 12:04 AM:

Re: Re: Thanks for supporting Memplug

quote:
Originally posted by Rob

...
I hope BlueNomad will add Memplug support for WordSmith (the best word processing app for PalmOS), because I have tons of large docs I'd love to offload from my Prism. Also, have you considered some kind of 'auto loader' capability similar to TRG's AutoCF functionality that automatically moves(copies?) apps from the Smartmedia card to the Visor when launched? I understand from reading the Kopsis CF Adapter mailing list that this is no easy task, but it sure would be a great feature!

For other 3rd party support, we has already put up the developers section to provide asistance and help. But maybe Memplug users can help in sending emails to those 3rd party to invite them to support Memplug.

For the autoMover, it is not an easy task. But we has already put it into the wish list of our future module update. Or maybe some 3rd party will do this job even faster than us.

Thanks again for supporting Memplug.
Memplug will keep Improving!

Posted by miradu on 03-17-2001 12:23 AM:

Well. noow that MemPlug peopel are on the boards.. (YEAH!)

Where's the edge?

I n the FAQ
"Q1 Which Visor model does MemPlug support?
A1 MemPlug supports all Visor handhelds available in the market, i.e., Visor Prism, Platinum, Deluxe and Solo.
"

probably other palces to. oh well..

GREAT PRODCUT! What I really like, is how indepth it is. How much software it includes etc. Seven though I HATE smartmedia, I might get this over CompactFlash. BECASEU of the features..

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Posted by PiDeveloper on 03-17-2001 01:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
Well. noow that MemPlug peopel are on the boards.. (YEAH!)

Where's the edge?

I n the FAQ
"Q1 Which Visor model does MemPlug support?
A1 MemPlug supports all Visor handhelds available in the market, i.e., Visor Prism, Platinum, Deluxe and Solo.
"

probably other palces to. oh well..

GREAT PRODCUT! What I really like, is how indepth it is. How much software it includes etc. Seven though I HATE smartmedia, I might get this over CompactFlash. BECASEU of the features..

Memplug is springboard compatible! I can't imaging it would have any problem with edge.
In case of any imcompatibility, we will provide flash update for our Memplug users.

Thx. for supporting Memplug.

Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-17-2001 01:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PiDeveloper
I can't imaging it would have any problem with edge.

I think he was just joking.

The thing I don't get is how anyone could hate SmartMedia? Contrary to what the review said, SmartMedia is more popular. It is the primary type of removeable storage for MP3 players and I'd risk it to say its more popular in cameras too. Compact flash is more popular in Handheld circles, mainly because of its peripherals, but we have Springboards anyway. Add to that, SmartMedia is cheaper, consumes less power, and smaller.

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Posted by Wahoo on 03-17-2001 06:09 AM:

Confused?????

So I am kind of confused. Is the MemPlug just a bigger version of the backup module. Or is it like the flash modules that allow you to run programs off of it? To my knowledge, the ?Haiwakari? 16MB Flash module is the largest flash memory module out to date. Does anyone know differently? I could definitely use the space.

Eric

Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-17-2001 06:17 AM:

Re: Confused?????

quote:
Originally posted by Wahoo
So I am kind of confused. Is the MemPlug just a bigger version of the backup module. Or is it like the flash modules that allow you to run programs off of it?

it allows you to use SmartMedia, programs & most databases are stored on the card when not in use. When you want to use them then you simply transfer them to the Visor's RAM with a FileMover app included on the Springboard. They currently have 2 software products, a picture viewer & a movie viewer, which do not require you to manually move the databases over and to you it looks the same as if you were storing those files on a normal Flash module. It also has a one-step backup option which is similar to the backup module.

PiDeveloper:
When the modifed version of CSpotRun comes out will it be released as normal software or as a Flash update to the MemPlug itself so we don't have to store it in RAM?

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Posted by dvIceT on 03-17-2001 07:09 AM:

It's coming! (hopefully)

quote:
Originally posted by joshieca

I received an email confirming that mine shipped this morning (3/16) from PalmGearHQ. I have never dealt with this company before and not sure if they provide a tracking service or not. I shipped mine via US Priority mail, so it should be here by (CA) Monday or Tuesday (3/19). We will see.

Me too!

I know it's wishful thinking but I hope "2-day service" leaves open the possibility I could have it by tomorrow(Saturday). Big thanks to kpochert for tipping off us VC members, because I had given up checking on its availability at PalmGear after several days of diligent monitoring.

quote:
Originally posted by joshieca

PS�What SmartMedia card readers are you people using on USB equipped Mac�s?

If you're looking for the most pocketable and portable USB card readers around, check out the Zio line. They have ones for SmartMedia, CF, and MMC. Personally, I have my eye on the FlashPath Smartmedia Floppy Adapter as a lot of the computers I come across don't have USB ports or are running Win95 or NT , which don't support USB.

Posted by xavier57 on 03-17-2001 08:51 AM:

memplug shipping

PalmGear notified me that my Memplug is SHipping!

I live in Canada, so I had to order Global Priority for $8 US.

I guess I'll see what that means as far as shipping time.

Arnold

Posted by PiDeveloper on 03-17-2001 09:10 AM:

Re: Re: Confused?????

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols

PiDeveloper:
When the modifed version of CSpotRun comes out will it be released as normal software or as a Flash update to the MemPlug itself so we don't have to store it in RAM?

I think the simpliest way is release it as a normal software at the first stage for free download in our webpage.

It is technically simple to make it as Flash update. But I need to figure out the GPL stuff and contact the original CSpotRun developer first.

Will keep our Memplug's users updated in here, and in our webpage, Thx. for your suggestion.

Posted by Rob on 03-17-2001 03:05 PM:

From the genericmedia web site's gMovie FAQ:

>Does gMovie Player support sound?
>
>The current generation of Palm hardware does not have digital audio capabilities.

I wonder if they could be convinced to work with the MiniJam or SoundsGood APIs to
offer movies with digital audio for Visor owners...but maybe they don't think this is a
large enough market for them to bother with. Plus, with the MiniJam or SoundsGood
module in the visor, you wouldn't have all the extra storage of the MemPlug, so you
could only store small movies in the free space on your visor anyway.

Does anyone know how TealMovie handles audio?

Posted by EricG on 03-17-2001 03:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rob

Does anyone know how TealMovie handles audio?

Through the built in speaker in the Visor. It's kinda raspy & soft , but it works, (it's not to todays standards by any means though), (very old, IBM PC, Commodore 64 and Apple II games used to do the same thing thru the built in speaker years and years ago before there were sound cards)

Tealmovie's (sound) works well enough for me.. In the end I'll probably end up keeping tealmovies on my smartmedia card until genericmedia adds sound.. (such a pity - gMovie has great potential )

I wish (genericmedia) would provide an option for using the visor speaker anyway..

I'm not sure how you could go about using the minijam or soundsgood as a "audio card", I don't think you can due to the nature of the devices.

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Posted by David Vitale on 03-17-2001 04:27 PM:

I've got a question I hope someone who has a memplug can answer. While I'm all ready to order (as this seems like it's what I've been waiting for), I use the handspring tri-fold leather case for Prism to carry my Prism around as well as credit cards, receipts - basically as my wallet.

if the smart media sticks out enough to preclude snapping a cover on the Prism, will it also preclude me using my case (as the Prism snaps into a plastic holder built into the tri-fold case)?

If so, in order to increase my memory with the $49 memplug, I'll have to throw away my $49 case.
dave

Posted by joshieca on 03-17-2001 04:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by David Vitale
I've got a question I hope someone who has a memplug can answer. While I'm all ready to order (as this seems like it's what I've been waiting for), I use the handspring tri-fold leather case for Prism to carry my Prism around as well as credit cards, receipts - basically as my wallet.

if the smart media sticks out enough to preclude snapping a cover on the Prism, will it also preclude me using my case (as the Prism snaps into a plastic holder built into the tri-fold case)?

If so, in order to increase my memory with the $49 memplug, I'll have to throw away my $49 case.
dave

David,
I was incorrect in stating that when the MemPlug is installed you wont be able to use your Visor�s cover case. I am a new Visor user and didn�t realize that the covers snaps on the front and that the springboard modules go onto the rear.

Check out the review�.
http://www.visorcentral.com/page/0-6-101-1-6.htm

It says that once the MemPlug is installed it only sticks up a few mm above the back. I have not received my MemPlug, but according to PalmGearHQ it�s on the way. I can post more info/details on it once I get it. I am hoping early next week (3/20).

- Josh

Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-17-2001 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by joshieca

I am a new Visor user and didn�t realize that the covers snaps on the front and that the springboard modules go onto the rear.

Actually, the snap cover can go on both the front & the rear on most Handspring models. Because of the thickness of the Prism the standard cover will not snap on the back but the case he has purchased has an "extended reach" which fits on the back and secures his Prism into the case.

I would have to say that most likely his case would no longer work.

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Posted by tgrier on 03-17-2001 08:17 PM:

Accessing DOC / TXT from Card

quote:
Originally posted by EricG

No, you can use a stand alone USB smartmedia reader/writer hooked up to your computer, no need to transfer them to the visor's memory first. Good thing about that is you can play video's larger than 8mb! Yes, you can directly access the video's and pictures from the card itself.. From what I read, you will also soon be able to read text files directly from the card as well (no need to ever put it into your visors memory)!

You mentioned.. accessing txt files from the card. Where could I read about this.. What I want to know if I purchased the mem card now.. and this became availible would I need to purchase a new memplug or somesoftware or something? I keep large amounts of training DOCs and Spreadsheets on my Platinum. I would love to have them in directories on the card and access them through quickword on the visor.

If you can point me in the direcion so I can read about it that would be great. Thanks
Terry

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Posted by EricG on 03-18-2001 05:19 AM:

Re: Accessing DOC / TXT from Card

quote:
Originally posted by tgrier

You mentioned.. accessing txt files from the card. Where could I read about this.. What I want to know if I purchased the mem card now.. and this became availible would I need to purchase a new memplug or somesoftware or something? I keep large amounts of training DOCs and Spreadsheets on my Platinum. I would love to have them in directories on the card and access them through quickword on the visor.

If you can point me in the direcion so I can read about it that would be great. Thanks
Terry

The developer of the memplug posted that information here in another thread, he used the source code to another Palm document reader called Cspotrun, from what he said it will be a download from the updates page, either as a standalone program or as a flash update for the module, either way, you won't need a "new" memplug to do this. I don't know for sure, but I think it will be a "freebie" as the original program CspotRun is licensed under the GPL license.. Search the springboard forum for messages by PiDeveloper..

try this link, look at the bottom for a message by PiDeveloper:
http://discussion.visorcentral.com/...mp;pagenumber=1

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Posted by alexmathew on 03-19-2001 04:52 PM:

Use with QuoVadis type GPS software?

Hi,
I know memplug needs files to be moved to the Visor RAM to work - BUT - with the QuoVadis (http://www.marcosoft.com) GPS software, the maps come in folders (a folder for a county). Can memplug directly store folders from a PC/Mac? The reason is this:
Lets say County A has a folder which has a file that is a Map of city X, County B also has a map of city X but it is a different map (even if the filenames are identical) and Quovadis knows the difference if all files in County A are loaded first followed by County B. BUT the filenames of maps of City X in County A & B are the same (so dragging into the Hotsync installer would give an error as it tried to over write). Now if the memplug card and software supported direct import of PC/Mac folders, it would solve this problem.
Any ideas from PIDeveloper or memplug users?

I hope everybody is as confused by the above explanation as I am :-)

Posted by EricG on 03-19-2001 06:05 PM:

Re: Use with QuoVadis type GPS software?

quote:
Originally posted by alexmathew
Hi,
I know memplug needs files to be moved to the Visor RAM to work - BUT - with the QuoVadis (http://www.marcosoft.com) GPS software, the maps come in folders (a folder for a county). Can memplug directly store folders from a PC/Mac? The reason is this:
Lets say County A has a folder which has a file that is a Map of city X, County B also has a map of city X but it is a different map (even if the filenames are identical) and Quovadis knows the difference if all files in County A are loaded first followed by County B. BUT the filenames of maps of City X in County A & B are the same (so dragging into the Hotsync installer would give an error as it tried to over write). Now if the memplug card and software supported direct import of PC/Mac folders, it would solve this problem.
Any ideas from PIDeveloper or memplug users?

I hope everybody is as confused by the above explanation as I am :-)

I think the short answer to your question is yes, the memplug supports folders, but you wouldn't use the hotsync installer to move the files to the Visor.. (well, I wouldn't try personally), use a 3rd part USB SmartMedia reader/writer and drag n' drop the folders over onto the SmartMedia card (your computer will treat it like a floppy disk).. something like this: http://www.microtechint.com/qs-zio.html but the smartmedia version.

when you have copied all you want, pop the smartmedia card out of the Zio device and install it into the memplug, under normal usage you shouldn't have to use hotsync to install files, games, etc..

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