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Posted by srwdc1 on 03-09-2001 01:15 AM:

I'm pretty handy with my Visor Dlx. I've got lots of useful programs on it.

Now I want to move into communications. I guess there are two topics:

A. Lotus Notes Email via syncing. I understand the concept, but have not tried it. You synch email back and forth from the Visor to the PC/laptop, and then send the email from the PC/laptop when connected to the company network or your ISP. (Kinda like working in a local replica of Notes mail).

Questions:
1. What is the best way to use Lotus Notes emails? I get dozens of emails daily, (some junk, of course!) and some with large embedded files. How do I selectively transfer the ones I want to keep to the Visor?
2. My personal email is AOL (I know, I know... our family uses it because my kids like to IM with their buddies.) What AOL products are there to copy email to the Visor?

B. Email and web via Modem (wired or wireless). OK, now say I want to do the above real-time, i.e. not wait for synching to/from laptop/PC and from laptop/PC to network/internet.

Questions:
3. Is there anyway to use our corporate VPN as an ISP from the Visor? Could you then get into the corporate network to get your Lotus Notes emails?
4. Can I dial into AOL via a Visor modem?
5. Can you get to other ISPs from a Visor modem (we have our AOL account on a cable modem account, so it costs $2.50 each time I dial-up to AOL's server using AOL as an ISP).
6. Any recommendations for a Visor Springboard modem (wired or wireless)?

Many thanks in advance
Steve

Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-09-2001 03:31 AM:

I'll try to answe as many as I can:

2. I don't recall what its called but their is a program that sells for about $20 and its able to go on AOL, send all your E-mail to Outlook, and from there it could synch using the built in conduit. Its a hassle.
3. Theres a company called V-One that has a VPN client for Palm OS, really don't know much about it.
4. You can dial into AOL with a modem for mail & Instant Messenger, no web browsing or access to AOL's other content (Which is 95% ads anyways).
5. I'm not exactly sure what your asking here. The Vissor's modem supports practically every dial-up ISP. If your asking if you can access AOL stuff over another ISP (Like you do with your cable modem) then the answer is only Instant Messenger, you can't do it with mail.
6. For Modem I'd say look at some of the recent postings. Go with an original ThinModem if you want small, easy, & cheap. Go with Xircom if you want external batteries and/or want to hook it up to a GSM phone. If your willing to spend the cash, go for a ThinModem+ with its 8mb of memory.

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Posted by ProjectZero on 03-09-2001 06:11 PM:

And to add...

quote:

1. What is the best way to use Lotus Notes emails? I get dozens of emails daily, (some junk, of course!) and some with large embedded files. How do I selectively transfer the ones I want to keep to the Visor?

In general, the mail sync just synchronizes everything in the Inbox container. To selectively transfer messages between devices usually means you'll have to do it manually... that is, sort the stuff out and leave the ones you want sync'ed over to the Visor in the Notes Inbox.

....or use "rules", or in Notes' case, agents, to automate the task.

Now, if you're like me, you probably have an agent or two running to automagically sort the stuff out into folders in the Local Notes mailbox. Unfortunately, this means that if I want some of the messages to sync into my Visor, I have to move or copy them out of those folders back into the Inbox.

And, if you happen to get an Notes-originated message that the author has checked the "Prevent Copy" attribute, it won't sync to the Visor (it's a Notes thing).

Now, there are a number of ways to perform mail sync between your Visor and Notes-- but not all may work due to the version of the Notes client you're using.

If you're using a pre-5.0 version of Notes, you can use the Handspring/Palm-supplied mail conduit. Just select the "Lotus cc:Mail" option (VIM).

If you're using 4.6x or later *and* the Notes client was installed with MAPI, it'll work with the "Exchange 5.0 or higher" or "Outlook 97 or higher" selection (although, if you're using 4.6x, I'd go with the "Lotus cc:Mail" option to use VIM).

If you're using 5.x *and* it wasn't installed with the MAPI drivers, then we have to take a fork in the road:

- Chances are VIM won't be installed, so you'll have to use a third party sync conduit. I'd recommend Pumatech's IntelliSync. Works quite nicely with Notes (4.5 through 5.x). It can also sync the Visor's other built-in apps (sans Expense) to the equivalent in Notes-- which may be worth the cost of IntelliSync alone if you happen to "live" in the Notes Workspace every working day.

I also also recommend IntelliSync over using the supplied mail conduit.

Some Notes/Domino consultants (and of course, Lotus) will recommend Lotus' EasySync replacment conduit for PIM and e-mail syncing. It's not an awful product but it's a product that takes over some functions of the your Visor-- do a search here on EasySync and you can read all about. Essentially, once you install EasySync, there's a high probability that you won't be able to sync anywhere else but the workstation you installed EasySync on.

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3. Is there anyway to use our corporate VPN as an ISP from the Visor? Could you then get into the corporate network to get your Lotus Notes emails?

You'll have to enlist the help of your Notes and network administrator. Depending on how they've configured access to your Notes servers and corporate network via VPN will dictate whether or not you can use your Visor to send/receive your work mail. To follow on what Matthew said, there's at least two PalmOS VPN apps out there. But, if your corporate environment uses something wonky for their VPN, even with a PalmOS VPN app, you might not be able to get in.

All might not be lost. Do you know (or ask your Notes administrator) if you can _receive_ your Notes E-Mail through a POP3 connection without having to log into the VPN? Like using Outlook Express or Eudora via your ISP? If you don't know and have to ask your Notes admin, give him/her this scenario:

"I'd like to check my office e-mail from home while I'm connected to the Internet. Is this possible?"

If your Notes admin is up to snuff on their installation, that's all he/she needs to give you an answer. If the admin does not start out with, "you'll have to log into the VPN first" or "No", then it's real easy-- any PalmOS POP3 mail app and a wired/wireless modem will allow you to receive your work mail. You just need the POP3 or IP address from your Notes administrator.

Sending is a different story; but if you're able to receive using any ISP, then use that ISP's SMTP host to send messages.

One other "solution" is to forward your mail to a POP3-accessable mailbox. A common method is to forward the desired messages to a Yahoo! Mail account and then use Y!'s POP3 access.

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5. Can you get to other ISPs from a Visor modem (we have our AOL account on a cable modem account, so it costs $2.50 each time I dial-up to AOL's server using AOL as an ISP).

I think the question that should be asked is: Can I get to other Internet resources via AOL's network? The answer is yes. Remember that AOL itself is an ISP-- the provider that gets you the "Internet dial-tone". If we're to believe the AOL advertising, that's how millions of AOL users get access to the Internet.

If what you're really asking is, "Can I use AOL to get to Earthlink/MSN/Juno/name-your-favorite-ISP's network?", the answer is generally no. And I would have to ask, "Why?".

Posted by critic on 03-09-2001 06:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols
I'll try to answe as many as I can:

5. I'm not exactly sure what your asking here. The Vissor's modem supports practically every dial-up ISP. If your asking if you can access AOL stuff over another ISP (Like you do with your cable modem) then the answer is only Instant Messenger, you can't do it with mail.

Not entirely true - AOL Mail can be checked with a standard web browser. All you need is a plain vanilla internet connection.

Just to add another point - if you have a cable modem in your home, you can use the IP connection provided by your Cable ISP to connect to AOL - which has the added benefit of not monopolizing your phone line - it sounds as though you're dialing in (despite the cable connection), which is why you're incurring those $2.50 per session charges. Also, if you're not using AOL's dial-ups, you can call them have have your account changed to "TCP/IP access only", which will save you about $11 a month. But if you have a cable modem, you shouldn't need to DIAL IN to AOL.

Posted by weekdaze on 03-09-2001 09:05 PM:

may be some help

"Questions:
3. Is there anyway to use our corporate VPN as an ISP from the Visor? Could you then get into the corporate network to get your Lotus Notes emails?
4. Can I dial into AOL via a Visor modem?
5. Can you get to other ISPs from a Visor modem (we have our AOL account on a cable modem account, so it costs $2.50 each time I dial-up to AOL's server using AOL as an ISP).
6. Any recommendations for a Visor Springboard modem (wired or wireless)? "

Not sure about VPN but i have some recent experience with the rest. You can only do mail and buddy lists on AOL and you must use their Anywhere software, works well. On ISPs, i had to find a local ISP with a plain dialup, not proprietary software, i ended up with Bellsouth.net, works great. I'm using the Thinmodem+,wired, happy camper.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-09-2001 10:50 PM:

I forgot about AOL Mail being accessed that way (Been a while since I used AOL).

As for the connection, sounds to me like hes already on the TCP/IP accounts and thats why he would be charged $2.50 each time he dials up, he also says he has a "cable modem account".

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