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Posted by dick-richardson on 07-09-2001 11:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PastaGrrrl
By the way... I DID see some guy carrying around a "man-purse" in the supermarket that day. He seemed kinda young, and he looked weird.

Was it Tinky Winky?

Did he look weird because of his purse, or in spite of it?

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Posted by sowens on 07-10-2001 12:10 AM:

Do what I did: Get an Edge.

Actually, it is nice in that respect. It's the first PDA I've ever seen that is thin enough to slip into my back jeans pocket (without feeling like I'm carrying an encyclopedia), and rugged enough to deal with it too.

Kind of an expensive option though, but what price are you willing to put on being fashionable?

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Posted by VTL on 07-10-2001 12:11 AM:

You nailed it. I don't want to look like Tinky-Winky.


Posted by gbgood on 07-10-2001 12:31 AM:

I just finally broke down and admitted that I have to hold that which is most dear to me in my hand at all times.
And.....
since I'm not a guy,
that would mean my Prism.

This did get tiring, and those black/brown cases/clips are so...dare I say, 'pedestrian.' So I got a colorful cross strap mini-bag from Bali, another from India, another one that's chic in all black, you get the idea. Most can fit only my Prism, some also the keyboard, but that's it.

Beware, the catch, no zippers or multi snaps. Only 1 button, 1 piece Velcro, or similar speedy in/out access allowed. 2 of mine don't have closures, just deep enough to work. And the cross strap provides support against my hip.

Finally, embrace your Prism! The data that I can whip out with mine astounds others daily.

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Posted by ProjectZero on 07-10-2001 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bookrats
No one cares (or if they have, they haven't communicated it to me).



Nahh... we're all just too polite to tell you how dorky you look

Seriously, if one does look like a dork with belt full of gadgets, would any of us be brave enough to approach said individual and tell him/her/it so? :-)


Posted by narnia_77 on 07-10-2001 01:29 AM:

My Prism is usually carried in my purse, but I use a belt clip when I don't want to carry my purse. It has just enough space for ID and some cash. It's comfortable for me, I don't really care if I look dorky or not. (Considering the odd ways some people groom and dress themselves here in LA, they are people more "interesting" to gawk at than me and a belt clip.)

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Posted by bookrats on 07-10-2001 04:42 PM:

Smile

quote:
Originally posted by ProjectZero
Seriously, if one does look like a dork with belt full of gadgets, would any of us be brave enough to approach said individual and tell him/her/it so? :-)


Not me. Some of those gadgets might be loaded. (The Charlton Heston celebrity Palm model is a dead giveaway.)

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Posted by bookrats on 07-10-2001 04:51 PM:

Smile

quote:
Originally posted by VTL
You nailed it. I don't want to look like Tinky-Winky.


Hey! But this cat Tinky-Winky is a bad mother--

Shut your mouth!

But I'm talkin' about Tinky-Winky!

Then we can dig it

He's a complicated man,
But no one understands him but his woman...

Tinky-Winky


Posted by VTL on 07-10-2001 05:10 PM:

Excellent adaption.

However, inappropriate for the Tinkster. I have two small boys, and I try and watch what they watch (when I'm not limiting their TV altogether). If TinkyWinky isn't gay, I'll eat my Prism. It's pretty clear that someone at the show either (a) had a sly, somewhat twisted sense of humor, or (b) wanted to plant the seed of tolerance (or something worse) in toddlers' subconscious.

Before folks mock me as some Jerry Fallwell-esqe paranoid, track down "Tellytubbies Love to Dance" on tape, and watch the segment where the little monsters take turns wearing a tutu and dancing. The Tinkster can't wait to put the thing on and prance about, and has to be coerced into taking it off. Dipsy (the other male, according to their website) doesn't want to wear the tutu. Perhaps more disturbing, one of the other TT chases him down and forces him to participate.

Very weird, for a kids show if you ask me.

Now, how is that for an off topic post.


Posted by linguas on 07-10-2001 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by VTL
wanted to plant the seed of tolerance (or something worse) in toddlers' subconscious

Are you saying that tolerance is bad????!!?!?!

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Posted by BobbyMike on 07-10-2001 07:29 PM:

It would be hard to tolerate everything and abide by your own morals. Can you tolerate stupidity, racism, fascism, sexism, etc.? It depends on what you tolerate.

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Posted by VTL on 07-10-2001 08:04 PM:

No, of course I don't think tolerance is bad, at least not in the abstract. There are limits, of course, and BobbyMike's comment is right on. For example, I believe in religious tolerance. However, that doesn't mean I condone the Taliban in Afghanistan blowing up statues of the Buddah, or repressing women.

I don't have a problem with a message that we should be generally tolerant, of homosexuals or otherwise. Other folks may disagree, legitimately.

I just find it odd that the tolerance for folks whose primary difference is their sexual preference is being pushed - subliminally, I might add - on a show pitched towards an audience composed of 2 and 3 year olds.

Anyway, I'm kind of sorry I brought it up - this is about as far off topic as it gets.


Posted by linguas on 07-10-2001 08:45 PM:

I suppose the difference is that I make no moralistic judgement toward gays. I see homosexuality simply as an attribute in someone that is different than I, and therefore deserving of my "tolerance." I think people react so strongly because of the automatic implication of a sexual agenda any time a gay is portrayed.

Maybe the message (and this is assuming that there is a message) is just that gays should be treated like anyone else.
As for the idea of tolerance being an all-or-nothing proposition, that's absurd. Things that are obviously wrong or harmful (hate, racism, fascism, sexism, etc.) are not deserving of tolerance.

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Posted by septimus on 07-10-2001 08:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by linguas
[...]As for the idea of tolerance being an all-or-nothing proposition, that's absurd. Things that are obviously wrong or harmful (hate, racism, fascism, sexism, etc.) are not deserving of tolerance.


Right, obviously wrong. Like it's obviously wrong to eat meat, or to drive a gasoline-powered car. "obviously wrong" is a relative term. Eating meat and driving diesel cars is fine now, but what about 300 years from now? 300 years ago hate, racism, fascism, and sexism were not only not "obviously wrong," but often supported and promoted by "moral" people.

...On a side note, although I think it's pretty safe to assume that they meant to associate the Tutu with being gay, that isn't necessarily the case. The urge to wear clothing belonging to another sex can and often does exist in hetereosexuals.

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Posted by septimus on 07-10-2001 09:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by VTL
I just find it odd that the tolerance for folks whose primary difference is their sexual preference is being pushed - subliminally, I might add - on a show pitched towards an audience composed of 2 and 3 year olds.


Nitpicking now. I think you mean "subtextually" or "subtly" or something of the sort. "Subliminally," as I understand it, refers to getting something into your brain under the radar by bypassing your ability to discern it (i.e. quick flashes, backward messages, etc). But the word is getting muddied (if only by Shrub), so whatever. Forget I said this.

quote:
Anyway, I'm kind of sorry I brought it up - this is about as far off topic as it gets.



It's interesting, tho....

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Posted by linguas on 07-10-2001 09:08 PM:

Point taken. Everything is subjective, isn't it? You can't change people's minds about things like this, you can only be true to what you feel to be right and wrong (somehow, to me, a kid seeing Tinky-Wink in a tutu doesn't rank up there with witnessing racism, though.)
'Nuff said - I'm leaving this one alone now.

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Posted by septimus on 07-10-2001 09:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by linguas
Point taken. Everything is subjective, isn't it? You can't change people's minds about things like this, you can only be true to what you feel to be right and wrong (somehow, to me, a kid seeing Tinky-Wink in a tutu doesn't rank up there with witnessing racism, though.)
'Nuff said - I'm leaving this one alone now.



Right, I agree wit ya.

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Posted by bookrats on 07-10-2001 09:14 PM:

*ahem*

Ummmm... slow news day, or what?
----
Closer to the original topic: I find it interesting that, amongst the non-techie people I know, carrying a PDA around in your shirt pocket is not considered geeky any longer.

I suspect part of this is that people are also carrying around cell phones in pockets -- a lot of people -- and PDAs have piggy-backed in, culture-wise.

If belt-clip phones catch on, the same acceptance may occur for belt-clip PDAs.

[Not that I care. Anyone who wears a T-shirt displaying a caffeine molecule on the front isn't worrying about getting into Canlis.]

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Posted by septimus on 07-10-2001 09:20 PM:

Re: *ahem*

quote:
Originally posted by bookrats
Ummmm... slow news day, or what?


...Something like that...

I like what DaveyDave cooked up, seems more palatable to me. I've got a startac on my belt, adding a visor may break the geek event horizon (from which there is no return). But if I upgrade to an IR capable Nokia, I could just switch: one gadget per belt, one gadget per pocket.

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Posted by creole on 07-10-2001 11:04 PM:

Love the avatar Dietrich!

DS rocks...

I just wish that Maura was real. Or her sister for that matter.


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