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Posted by Nhatman on 05-08-2000 07:03 PM:

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A recent reply I received from Nexian/Navicom:

Dear Customer:

We are working hard to ship HandyGPS modules by the end of May. We are very sorry that our launch schedule has been delayed.
Any changes on our current plans will be posted on our web site and Navicom's soon.
Sorry for late reply and thanks for your kind advice.
Regards,

[email protected]


Posted by mavidal on 05-08-2000 07:45 PM:

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Well at least you got a reply. Nexian site is not available now which concerns me.

I guess I have to wait some more.

A disappointed


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Posted by JJR on 05-08-2000 08:20 PM:

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Don't wait for HandyGPS. Take a look at www.geodiscovery.com. It seems to be a much better product that will offer topo maps as well as street level maps. Potentially, a much better product with more to offer.

June 21 is the "big" announcement.


Posted by Nhatman on 05-08-2000 09:05 PM:

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Geodiscovery's GPS has a release date of Late Summer. It will be interesting to see who can get their GPS units out the door first. I do have concerns for the current 2 major players in this arena, though.

HandyGPS: Nexian's website is out of commission and Navicom doesn't know the meaning of the word "web update".

GeoDisc: Why is the Chief Customer, Joe Free, called an "Evangelist"? Is it a Utah thing?

Either way, the more competition, the better.


Posted by JJR on 05-08-2000 09:19 PM:

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You're right Nhatman, Evangelist definitely a strange title.

I even heard of a combination GPS/MP3 springboard that allows for a "guided audio tour" that you can download.

At any rate, I think we are all getting tired of empty springboard promises.


Posted by PDAENVY on 05-08-2000 09:56 PM:

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Apple has had an official Mac "evangelist" for probably a decade now. Like in religion, it's someone whose job it is to convert the masses.


Posted by Gameboy70 on 05-08-2000 11:01 PM:

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My $0.02 US, which I posted earlier:

My guess is that the "Chief Customer Evangelist" moniker is an old Silicon Valley trick. Because tech companies in the Valley are (justifiably) paranoid about having their staff gutted by headhunters, they tell their employees to come up with some creative name like "Senior Software Shaman" or what-have-you. That way, when a headhunter looks up a company's software project manager, they can't find it.


Posted by Joe Free on 05-08-2000 11:45 PM:

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(as seen posted earlier)

My job is to represent the customer's needs to the company. I "evangelize" the needs of the customer to the company, rather than the other way around...that's the sales guys job!

So you don't need to worry that I will come knocking on your door!

Joe Free
Chief Customer Evangelist


Posted by Nhatman on 05-09-2000 12:55 AM:

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Newcomer Joe Free steals the ball from Navicom/Nexian and shoots for a customer-involvement basket....nothing but net.


Nexian/Navicom: 0
GeoDiscovery: 1

And the game continues....


Posted by Rob on 05-09-2000 02:41 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by Nhatman:
Newcomer Joe Free steals the ball from Navicom/Nexian and shoots for a customer-involvement basket....nothing but net.


Nexian/Navicom: 0
GeoDiscovery: 1

And the game continues....



...ah, but you forgot the three 'slipping delivery date without explanation' personal fouls, and the 'not responding to customer questions' technical foul!

Navicom: -4
Geodiscovery: 1


Posted by PaulD on 05-09-2000 04:09 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by JJR:

I even heard of a combination GPS/MP3 springboard that allows for a "guided audio tour" that you can download.




I believe this is called the Sherpa, at www.thesherpa.com. Kind of like those headsets you can get at the zoo.


Posted by Nhatman on 05-09-2000 06:15 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob:
...ah, but you forgot the three 'slipping delivery date without explanation' personal fouls, and the 'not responding to customer questions' technical foul!

Navicom: -4
Geodiscovery: 1




I will give Nexian some credit (1/2 point) for responding to my email (posted earlier) within a few days. But since I like to round DOWN, the score still stands...

Navicom/Nexian: -4
GeoDiscovery: 1

PS - Joe, Evangelist Extraordinaire, will your GPS unit take regular batteries or have an internal rechargeable like Rand McNally's? Or are you allowed to answer that? And if you could tell me, would you then have to kill me?


Posted by lacherclp on 05-09-2000 01:36 PM:

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quote:
Originally posted by Nhatman:
I will give Nexian some credit (1/2 point) for responding to my email (posted earlier) within a few days. But since I like to round DOWN, the score still stands...

Navicom/Nexian: -4
GeoDiscovery: 1



I want to add to this discussion too. When I first heard about GeoDiscovery, I immediately made a beeline for their website, to get on the e-mail list and sign up for the beta program. Even though the website had some problems, two different people at GeoDiscovery, their receptionist, who I spoke with, and Joe, who I've exchanged e-mails with - were VERY nice and very helpful. Joe even took my beta program application via e-mail when I couldn't get the link on the site to work. They are obviously a customer committed company, and I couldn't be more pleased. So, I respectfully submit my "point adjustment".

Navicom/Nexian: -4
GeoDiscovery: 2

If the product is even half as good as the service, it's going to be the best springboard module out there.

--Steve Lacher


Posted by mavidal on 05-09-2000 03:29 PM:

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Well this is interesting:

After trying Nexian's site for the last 4 days, it now comes up under constructions, and directs you to Navicom's site in the interim.

Maybe the Koreans (and I have worked with them)are a little slow in the decision making process and execution?

It looks like I may have to settle for the Geodiscovery myself. I also signed up for the beta, and given that I travel a bit, I was really looking forward to a GPS module for my visor. That is the main reason I upgraded from an old pilot. :-)



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Ice Owner
Corvette Enthusiast
Racecar Spelled backwards is Racecar!


Posted by Joe Free on 05-09-2000 06:16 PM:

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quote:
Originally posted by Nhatman:
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PS - Joe, Evangelist Extraordinaire, will your GPS unit take regular batteries or have an internal rechargeable like Rand McNally's? Or are you allowed to answer that? And if you could tell me, would you then have to kill me?




At this time we are planning on regular batteries. Those could be alkaline or some type of rechargable batteries. We felt that if you are in the woods or wherever and your batteries die it is easier to carry a couple extra batteries than find an outlet to charge up the device's battery pack.

Now look at this little shiny pen I have and watch for the flash....

Joe Free
Chief Customer Evangelist
GeoDiscovery


[This message has been edited by Joe Free (edited 05-09-2000).]


Posted by Nhatman on 05-09-2000 08:10 PM:

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Joe, I like what I hear. One of the many things that I like about the Visor is that it does not have an internal battery. Surprises usually happen at the most inconvenient places and times.

Mavidal, hopefully, Nexian is down because they are preparing their website for ordering OR (and it's a big OR) they are changing their release date to the next leap year.


Posted by mavidal on 05-09-2000 08:18 PM:

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Nhatman:

Is that leap year ours or GPS leap year?

LOL



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Mike Vidal
Ice Owner
Corvette Enthusiast
Racecar Spelled backwards is Racecar!


Posted by waterboy on 05-10-2000 03:05 AM:

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The geodiscovery is great news. I almost popped for a palmIIIxe so I could hook up my Garmin 12. I will set back and wait now. I am extremely pleased that this new player recognizes the need to be open with the software. I plan to use this for ocean navigation so software can get specific. Thanks for reinstilling my hopes. Handy GPS is wasting our time


Posted by Corky on 05-10-2000 05:06 AM:

Cool

Joe Free for President in 2000.

Sure beats the smucks that we have to choose from now.

Seriously, I had not heard of the GeoDiscovery product until reading this post. I wanted to chip in my 2 cents for one main reason. To applaud Mr. Free for keeping in touch with VisorCentral discussion boards and for chiming in response to potential buyers' questions.

I'll have to say that amidst all the whining about the fact that there seem to be so many "vapor Springboards" -- I've seen legitimate concerns, suggestions, recommendations and possible bugs on software, the Visor itself as well as the currently available Springboards. VisorCentral readers are an informed and sharp bunch.

So "thank you", Joe, for keeping your pulse on the VisorCentral boards. And you have my vote for president this year. You could run on the "A Visor + GPS Springboard in every home platform." Forget the "chickens in every pot"... they're too shot up with hormones anyways...


Posted by jerrylcox on 05-10-2000 04:14 PM:

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Just to keep the joke going, the Navicom web site has been updated to say:


Ordering information will be on our web-site at the end of May.


Again they do not specify whether or not that is 2000, 2001 or some later year .

Take care,
Jerry


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