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Posted by VisorCentral on 10-26-2001 09:51 PM:

Handspring quietly announces new technical support policy

In a move that follows others in the industry, Handspring has announced that it will soon charge $19.95 for support calls after 90 days of ownership.

http://www.visorcentral.com/content/Stories/1301-1.htm


Posted by argent on 10-26-2001 10:22 PM:

Unhappy How do they work this?

The call is free if it's a warranty call? So how do they work this, they take your CC# regardless and then don't charge it? What if you don't use credit cards? You're out of luck, and can't get any support for your Visor at all?

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Posted by miradu on 10-26-2001 10:29 PM:

AFAIK Handspring has always taken your credit card number when you get a replacement, so that they are gaurenteed their money back, - IE you ship the broken visor back within 30 days, or get charged the price of the broken Visor (as I remember)

And a lot of other companies do the same thing..

Hewlett-Packard support will take your credit card number before they ask anything,and than go on to ask questions... I remember once we were told to call back the next day (free of charge), they took my dads credit card number, and than didn't charge it after we gave them our case number...

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Posted by argent on 10-26-2001 10:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
AFAIK Handspring has always taken your credit card number when you get a replacement, so that they are gaurenteed their money back
If you get an advance replacement, yes.

There's a big difference between requiring a CC# for special services, and requiring one to talk to them at all.

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Posted by Toby on 10-26-2001 10:55 PM:

Re: How do they work this?

quote:
Originally posted by argent
The call is free if it's a warranty call? So how do they work this, they take your CC# regardless and then don't charge it? What if you don't use credit cards? You're out of luck, and can't get any support for your Visor at all?
That sums it up. They're becoming Microsoft now.


Posted by argent on 10-26-2001 11:44 PM:

Re: Re: How do they work this?

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
That sums it up. They're becoming Microsoft now.
That's harsh. :->

No, really, I am interested in the answer to my question. I'd like to know if there's any point in my calling them at all, now.

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Posted by mensachicken on 10-27-2001 12:27 AM:

Re: Re: Re: How do they work this?

quote:
Originally posted by argent
That's harsh. :->

No, really, I am interested in the answer to my question. I'd like to know if there's any point in my calling them at all, now.



he was being serious.

yes, you give your credit card at the start of the call. it (the phone) checks to see if you can cover the cost of the support. then you talk to a person. then, if you called because of your own defects, you lose $20. if it's a warranty prob (and therefore a fault of HS), you are not charged the $20.

birds do it, bees do it, even handspring does it.

mc


Posted by homer on 10-27-2001 05:12 AM:

Well...I doubt very much that my next PDA will be a Handspring product now...

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Posted by dick-richardson on 10-27-2001 06:40 PM:

Well, I cracked my prisms screen. It's $125 to replace them now. Might want to double check on the cost for the deluxe et. all.

quote:
Originally posted by homer
Well...I doubt very much that my next PDA will be a Handspring product now...

You got that right.

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Posted by septimus on 10-27-2001 06:56 PM:

Oh, give me a break. Palm already did this. It's just the cost of doing business these days. Boycotting a company just because it's tech support policies match those of other companies instead of going above and beyond is a little petty.

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Posted by usonian2001 on 10-27-2001 07:04 PM:

Red face That's all well and good;

They can't very well tell you "That'll be 19.95, can I have your credit card number now please?" at the end of the call, or everyone would hang up.

Most companies charge for tech support after a fixed period like 90 days... what concerns me are the tech support reps that work for every company that listen to you describe your problem, tap a few keys, and then say, "Uh, just do a soft reset / power cycle your cable modem / unplug the cable box for 1/2 an hour, and that should take care of the problem. If it doesn't then you can give us another call." You know the ones.

And what's the deal with screen replacements? Since those aren't covered by warranty, am I paying $20 to talk to somebody on the phone and then another $85-$100 to replace the screen? I'm glad my Prism is insured.

People not being able to get tech support without a CC# is a concern too... hopefully they'll institute a check by phone option too.

Of course nobody's thrilled about paying for tech support, but Handspring has got to stop bleeding money and this is one way they can do it.

At least they'll still give you the first 90 days free - most grave problems with a new Visor ought to show up within that time frame.

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Posted by dick-richardson on 10-27-2001 07:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dietrichbohn
Oh, give me a break. Palm already did this. It's just the cost of doing business these days. Boycotting a company just because it's tech support policies match those of other companies instead of going above and beyond is a little petty.

My problem isn't with their phone-sex initiative. It's paying $125 for a refurb prism. I don't deal with their tech support to begin with.

I do have to say that I would be pissed if I went through every technical support option on their website, called the 888 number to arrange for a repair, was told I needed to talk to tech support - a long distance call to begin with, to be told by them that it was going to cost $20 unless it really didn't work, to then have to call the 888 number again. What if it's a problem with an edge and the digitizer fixies itself temporarily? Now I pay tech support $20 and have to keep my faulty unit?

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Posted by homer on 10-27-2001 08:05 PM:

quote:
Boycotting a company just because it's tech support policies match those of other companies instead of going above and beyond is a little petty.


Asking companies to stand behind their products is being petty?

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Posted by Toby on 10-27-2001 09:08 PM:

Re: Re: Re: How do they work this?

quote:
Originally posted by argent
That's harsh. :->
The latter comment was, yes, and probably a bit hyperbolous as well, but the first sentence was the only possibility.
quote:
No, really, I am interested in the answer to my question. I'd like to know if there's any point in my calling them at all, now.

I think you answered your own question. There's no other way that they can implement the policy other than to ask everyone for a credit card number before they are allowed to talk to a support person. Otherwise, one could just hang up after their problem was solved and not pay.


Posted by Toby on 10-27-2001 09:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
AFAIK Handspring has always taken your credit card number when you get a replacement, so that they are gaurenteed their money back, - IE you ship the broken visor back within 30 days, or get charged the price of the broken Visor (as I remember)
I doubt if anyone would have a problem with that. Advance replacements aren't always standard in the consumer space, so I don't consider that a big deal.
quote:
And a lot of other companies do the same thing..

Getting a credit card number for an advanced replacement is not the same thing, though. Traditionally, if one didn't have a credit card, they could still get a replacement by shipping theirs first, and the company could ship their replacement when it was received.
quote:
Hewlett-Packard support will take your credit card number before they ask anything,and than go on to ask questions... I remember once we were told to call back the next day (free of charge), they took my dads credit card number, and than didn't charge it after we gave them our case number...

Um...I don't know if I'd consider lumping Handspring into the same category as HP consumer desktops a good thing.


Posted by argent on 10-27-2001 10:13 PM:

Missed this earlier:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
Hewlett-Packard support will take your credit card number before they ask anything,and than go on to ask questions...
What part of HP? I haven't had to give them a CC# to get support on my Jornada.

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Posted by miradu on 10-28-2001 12:10 AM:

hmm the Pavilion Custumor support number about well in early 1997 or late 96

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Posted by septimus on 10-28-2001 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dick-richardson

My problem isn't with their phone-sex initiative. It's paying $125 for a refurb prism. I don't deal with their tech support to begin with.

I do have to say that I would be pissed if I went through every technical support option on their website, called the 888 number to arrange for a repair, was told I needed to talk to tech support - a long distance call to begin with, to be told by them that it was going to cost $20 unless it really didn't work, to then have to call the 888 number again. What if it's a problem with an edge and the digitizer fixies itself temporarily? Now I pay tech support $20 and have to keep my faulty unit?



the 125 thing is bs.

I have always thought is was bs that you had to pay tolls to call support...

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Posted by septimus on 10-28-2001 12:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by homer
Asking companies to stand behind their products is being petty?


I think they ARE supporting their product.. maybe I'm just not angry b/c the only reason I've ever called is to demand a replacement...

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Posted by yardie on 10-28-2001 12:58 AM:

Arrow Profits

quote:
Originally posted by dietrichbohn
Oh, give me a break. Palm already did this. It's just the cost of doing business these days. Boycotting a company just because it's tech support policies match those of other companies instead of going above and beyond is a little petty.


As a shareholder I think this is a good thing. As a Visor user I think it sucks. Bottom line is that Handspring need to start making a profit. One of the reasons why they are losing buckets of cash is because of their over generous support system. The freebies gotto end. Just like how the freebies on the net has dried up. Goodwill can get you only so far.

For those that say they are not going to buy Visors again...what exactly are you going to get? All PDA manufacturers have already gone to thsi model or will eventually. Just somethign to think about.


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