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Posted by ethos on 08-01-2001 08:48 PM:

Memplug CF or Memplug SM

I'm want to purchase a memplug but am unsure as to which one CF or SM to get. I currently don't own either kind. Any suggestions? I will also be purchasing PIDirect.

Thanx

Ethos

Posted by hloakes on 08-01-2001 08:52 PM:

It is my understanding the the CF is faster, but has more battery drain than the SM. I personally like the SM better because the card is smaller. I have a copy of my backup that I keep in my wallet. If things keep going like they are now, I will probably have to get a second card for every day use and I would much rather carry a SM in my case than a CF.

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Posted by dorelse on 08-01-2001 09:02 PM:

I personally chose the CF adapter just because its what the PocketPC's use as well, so if I ever switch (heaven forbid), I'll have the memory cards for it as well. I dunno, just seemed more standard I guess.

Posted by volcanopele on 08-01-2001 09:18 PM:

i ordered a MemPlug SM and it should arrive today. I went with MemPlug SM because it is not as demanding on battery power as CF. I already have two, "power-drain" modules, namely Eyemodule2 and the CardAccess ThinModem, and I don't want a third. I change my batteries often enough as it is. as far as size goes, it didn't really factor in for me as I will be getting a Grinder Gear Expedition in the mail sometime this week and that should be able to hold almost anything visor related in it except for my Stowaway. Speed, while good, was not a deal breaker for me. So you will have to wrestle three maybe four options: size, speed, battery usage, and top memory size.

Jason

Posted by mgizzi on 08-02-2001 12:56 AM:

I have both. I prefer CF because:
1) The CF card seems to protrude less than the SM and I can actually still use my Vaja Prism flip case with the CF model; I can't do that with the SM.

2) SM may have less of a memory drain on the visor, but I have a ton of CF cards from several digital cameras.

3) CF just seems sturdier to me. Doesn't take any more space in my bag, but feels like it won't break nearly as easily.

Mike

Posted by Potus on 08-02-2001 01:20 AM:

Get the version compatible with your other ditgital equipment. I lust after a certain Olympus digital camera and have a MiniJam which also uses SM, so I just purchased the sm MemPlug.

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Posted by volcanopele on 08-02-2001 05:25 PM:

POTUS and mgizzi have good points. If you are already using one of the two, get the one you are already using. It would pointless to have to get two different cards for your various digital devices if you don't have to. But ethos said he didn't have any devices that used either of them. As far as the thinness of the SM card, I agree. But since I won't be doing much swapping of the card, its going to be a permanent resident in the MemPlug. So it won't be a factor. As far as the SM card protruding, it doesn't look all that bad. Maybe only half a mm.

Jason

Posted by ethos on 08-02-2001 09:21 PM:

Thanks folks for all the input. I guess I'm leaning towards the sm, because it consumes less power. Hopefully it will fit in my Prism EB Case.

Posted by ethos on 08-02-2001 09:23 PM:

Where did you buy your memplug?

One more question. Where are you folks buy your memplugs and how much? I am considering buying from Palmgear and getting the memplug with the 64mg for $150. Any thoughts?

Posted by wforde on 08-02-2001 09:37 PM:

Re: Where did you buy your memplug?

quote:
Originally posted by ethos
One more question. Where are you folks buy your memplugs and how much? I am considering buying from Palmgear and getting the memplug with the 64mg for $150. Any thoughts?

I would buy the memplug from palmgear, but get the memory from
someplace else like www.newegg.com.
If palmgear only charges $50 for the adapter, then they are charging
you $100 for the card. newegg has 64M cards for $32. The most i
would pay right now for 64M is $50.

Posted by jke on 08-02-2001 10:12 PM:

A good place to check out is http://store.yahoo.com/aaronix/comflasmem.html.I belive I'm waiting a month but I belive CF is the way to

Posted by volcanopele on 08-02-2001 10:23 PM:

I bought my MemPlug and a 64 MB SM card from CDW.com. Great customer service. I was about to get PalmGear's MemPlug+32MB SM bundle that they sell for 100 bucks, but when I ordered it the MemPlug was on Backorder so I canceled it. I will be moving back to Kansas in a week and a half (aaaughhh, it's that soon and I wanted at the very least a good backup module and a great deal of memory on the side. I found that CDW sold MemPlugs AND Smart Media cards so purchased them there. I would recommend getting the MemPlug from CDW and the SM card/CF card from either CDW or Newegg.com .

After posting this I remembered that CDW only sold MemPlug SM. If you want to get CF, though from your post it sounds like you are going with SM, then I think your only choice is Palmgear but I could be mistaken.

Jason

Posted by acajigas on 08-03-2001 03:08 AM:

Re: CF

quote:
Originally posted by mgizzi
I have both. I prefer CF because:
1) The CF card seems to protrude less than the SM and I can actually still use my Vaja Prism flip case with the CF model; I can't do that with the SM.

2) SM may have less of a memory drain on the visor, but I have a ton of CF cards from several digital cameras.

3) CF just seems sturdier to me. Doesn't take any more space in my bag, but feels like it won't break nearly as easily.

Mike

I think you are the right person to ask the following question:

I'm currently using the MemPlug SM and I have Afterburner running at 42Mhz default. My applications don't seem to be slow, just a little bit than normal. So, do you see a lot of difference in the speed of a MemPlug SM and CF? let's say how fast a CF loads AvantGo or other applications compared to SM. Could you give me an aproximation of delay.

Thanks

Al

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Posted by mgizzi on 08-03-2001 04:24 AM:

Re: Re: CF

quote:
Originally posted by acajigas

I think you are the right person to ask the following question:

I'm currently using the MemPlug SM and I have Afterburner running at 42Mhz default. My applications don't seem to be slow, just a little bit than normal. So, do you see a lot of difference in the speed of a MemPlug SM and CF? let's say how fast a CF loads AvantGo or other applications compared to SM. Could you give me an aproximation of delay.

Thanks

Al

What I found was the everything was a bit sluggish loading with the Memplug CF, but once it is in memory programs function normally. I have not tested Pi Direct with the Memplug SM yet, so I can't tell you if the CF functions more slowly than the SM -- but my gut sense is that its not the storage media as much as the overhead of the Pi Direct software which is the real issue. All that I have read suggests that the difference between the two really has more to do with power drain of running CF compared with SM.

I will admit that I am disappointed with Pi Direct. Everything seems to take longer to run when I use it compared with my Hagiawara 16MB flash module. AND I used FastCPU with programs cranked as high as 46 MHz.

I decided the performance hit wasn't worth it for day-to-day functionality; so I'll use the MemPlug when I need to travel and bring a bunch with me, but will stick with the flash module for day-to-day stuff.

Mike

Posted by Brooklyn on 08-03-2001 11:15 AM:

I just got the CF MemPlug and a 32 MB PNY card. When I remove the CF card or the Memplug module my Visor Resets. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? Or could it be that my CF Card is incompatible? Anyone having the same problem or have a solution?
By the way' Bestbuy has a $20 rebate going on PNY CF/ and S/M Cards.

Posted by mgizzi on 08-03-2001 02:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Brooklyn
I just got the CF MemPlug and a 32 MB PNY card. When I remove the CF card or the Memplug module my Visor Resets. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? Or could it be that my CF Card is incompatible? Anyone having the same problem or have a solution?
By the way' Bestbuy has a $20 rebate going on PNY CF/ and S/M Cards.

I have had that happen a lot, but not every time. It also happens frequently when I remove a flash module. There isn't anything to worry about when the visor does a reset after removing a card (unless the memplug was still writing to "disk" (so to speak) when you pulled the memplug out.

Assuming your CF card works when it is in the device, I don't think its a compatibility issue.

Mike

PS Another great deal on CF is at PC Connection. They have a 192MB bundle (1 128MB and 1 64MB Simple Technology CF cards) for $130. Basically you get a 64MB card for free. And they work with the MemPlug. I used the 128MB card for my Lyra2 mp3 player and the 64MB card for both the visor and my digital camera......

Posted by Vew on 08-03-2001 11:16 PM:

I have CF because I've read tons of reviews, compairsons, and "torcher tests," much like the ones the performed on the Game Boy Advanced. I've heard people dropping these things down stairs, withstand temperatures that normal electronics would die and, and what impressed me the most was that a few people accidently put it though the washing machine when left in their pants pocket. All ran perfectly fine afterwards.

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Posted by Brooklyn on 08-04-2001 12:07 AM:

Duhh� Never-mind on the request for help on the Memplug resets. I figured it out? You have to disable PiDirect before removing any CF cards from the memplug or before removing the MemPlug module from the Visor.

Posted by PiDeveloper on 08-04-2001 01:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Brooklyn
Duhh?Never-mind on the request for help on the Memplug resets. I figured it out? You have to disable PiDirect before removing any CF cards from the memplug or before removing the MemPlug module from the Visor.

Hi Brooklyn,

Have you install the latest updater v1.6.2 ?

Since removal the module / card means removal of the card's applications at the same time. I think you have some programs under PiDirect sub-directory which may need reset after removal.

Normally your device would not reset, even you have enabled PiDirect.
Just check your program run on card list, where that has some hack master programs or other system interaction program. That cause the reset.

Regards,
PiDeveloper

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Posted by GSR13 on 08-04-2001 04:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ethos
Thanks folks for all the input. I guess I'm leaning towards the sm, because it consumes less power. Hopefully it will fit in my Prism EB Case.

I have the original MemPlug (the BigOne) and it fits into my EB Slipper Prism. Even though it fit, I did cut the top of my SM Card off though, and now it is almost perfect.

You should have no trouble with yours.

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