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Posted by pcgamingnet.com on 12-28-2000 03:44 PM:

Arrow

well, hello everyone. i should be getting my blue visor dlx in a few hours :-) and am interested in the thinmodem so i can keep connected but i have a problem. we cancelled our dial-up isp for cable, and i am not interested in paying per month for limited use on the pda. has anyone had success with any of the free isp's that are still out there, and how did you set it up. since i have cable, i won't be able to dial in to anything (for passwords etc.) anyone in the same situation? thanks for any help.

btw.. visorcentral.com is great, keep up the work!

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Posted by j762538 on 12-28-2000 04:43 PM:

You should do a discussion search on free isp.

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Posted by Jscalia on 12-29-2000 04:11 AM:

I too have recently bought a thinmodem and also have cable ISP. So what I did was get an ATT worldnett ISP account for only $5/month. This gives you 150 hours/month of usage. Thats a great deal, the best deal going. ATT worldnett is premium service, fast, reliable and lots of local access numbers along with a 1800 access number that charges a very reasonable .10 a minute. The free ISP are slow, unreliable connections with limited access numbers. They are not supported on PDAs unless you go through the trouble of obtaining the secret username and password codes. Now I am connected to the web and have multimail for email retreival for only $5/month. I am a happy clam.


Posted by pcgamingnet.com on 12-29-2000 03:14 PM:

Jscalia - that sounds pretty cool, i will look into it. Thx.

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Posted by Brad3293 on 12-30-2000 03:09 PM:

Have you tried the newer version of the Bluelight.com internet service? They restrict you to 25 hours a month but that should be plenty I would think for lite usage. That's assuming it works on the Visor, I haven't tried that one yet.


Posted by DaveyDave on 12-30-2000 04:29 PM:

Thumbs down Popup-ads with AT&T

AT&T looked real good for $4.95/mo, so I downloaded the software and started to install it. I read that there is an advertisment bar that you cannot close. If you try to close it it will disconnect you. Is this different than Netzero or Juno, which are free? Bummer!!!

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Posted by Jscalia on 12-30-2000 08:30 PM:

there is no advertising bar on my visor or on my desktop with the i495 att service.


Posted by MarkEagle on 12-30-2000 11:05 PM:

Re: Popup-ads with AT&T

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyDave
I read that there is an advertisment bar that you cannot close. If you try to close it it will disconnect you.


I think that only happens if you're using their software for access. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing instructions in their help area where they explained how to setup IE or Netscape and the dialer directly.

As for the free ISP's... there seems to be a major fallout of them lately. Many have closed up shop or merged with other services in the past few months. I guess the free model just isn't working (understandable since everyone I know hates those obnoxious ad windows). I'd be really skeptical about signing up for one since there's a good chance they won't be there tomorrow.

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Posted by pcgamingnet.com on 12-31-2000 01:25 PM:

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I'd be really skeptical about signing up for one since there's a good chance they won't be there tomorrow.
yes i agree, if i get the modem, i will probably go for a cheap isp. since i am very satisfied with at&t broadband access, i will look into the $5 dial-up

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Posted by MarkEagle on 12-31-2000 01:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pcgamingnet.com
since i am very satisfied with at&t broadband access, i will look into the $5 dial-up


Check with AT&T Broadband. They offer dial-up access so you can login while away from home. Unfortunately, it's a $14.95 setup fee and $.15/minute charge.

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Posted by DaveyDave on 12-31-2000 02:14 PM:

Thumbs up I'll try it

Cool, well I'll have to give AT&T dialup a try after all and see about the ad window issue. In the paragraph before you push the "I Agree" button (the paragraph I usually don't read), they explicitly state that thei nav bar has ads, and that closing the ad window or bypassing it will log you off. Wierd. I'll try it though, thanks!

Dave

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Posted by pcgamingnet.com on 12-31-2000 05:09 PM:

still a couple questions...

1. you are saying that the $5.00 at&t service throws ads at you (sometimes?)
2. is there special software like free isp's?
3. where can i check this out?
4. how does it stand up against other isp's on a pda...

since this will be specifically used on my visor, i want to make sure it will work good.

thanks for all the help.

brandon

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Posted by MarkEagle on 12-31-2000 05:26 PM:

The AT&T Worldnet i495 package does appear to require a dreaded navigation bar, as they call it. Their standard service (requires no navbar), is 14.95/month for up to 150 hrs.

There are some instructions for configuring the Windows Dial-up client to access WorldNet (IP addresses, etc). I'm not sure if these would work with the i495 plan or not. That would depend on whether the navbar is controlled by the server side or not.

I'd suggest reading through the Price Plans and Billing FAQ's. There's some important stuff in there, like no concurrent connections, etc

I guess there realy is no such thing as a free (or cheap) lunch!

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Posted by pcgamingnet.com on 12-31-2000 06:42 PM:

thanks for the great info mark. i read the terms and FAQs and am a bit skeptical. it looks like this is not much different from a free isp, except it is from at&t, and probably more reliable. here are some interesting quotes from the faq...


quote:
What's this navigation bar that comes on my screen whenever I'm online?

That's our way of helping you simplify your surf. The i495 Offer launches a useful navigation bar whenever you're online that makes it even easier to surf the Web. Enjoy direct links to popular sites, search, e-mail and your homepage. Plus, you'll receive offers tailored to your preferences, making shopping on the Net that much more exciting.
yeah right :-)


quote:
Is the i495 Offer navigation bar always on-screen while I use the Service?

Yes. The navigation bar will always be there to help you quickly locate your favorite places on the Web. It may be a little different than what you're used to, but we think you'll actually find it quite helpful. If you feel the bar is in your way, simply grab it and move it to a "quiet" corner of your screen. But don't close it, or your session will be disconnected and you'll have to log back on.
hmm, quiet corner


quote:
Can I close or turn off the navigation bar and still use the Service?

No, closing or turning off the navigation bar will terminate your current session. It is through the use of this window that AT&T is able to offer customers this great low price by providing them with relevant advertisements and marketing messages based on their registration information, surveys they complete, and the Web sites they visit
now they mention ads


i guess you are right:
quote:
I guess there realy is no such thing as a free (or cheap) lunch!
:-)

has anyone used the i495 package on their visor with success? how did you set it up?

quote:
there is no advertising bar on my visor or on my desktop with the i495 att service.


@ Jscalia - how? does it work good on your pda??

thanks everyone...

brandon

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Posted by Jscalia on 01-01-2001 01:54 AM:

The ATT 495 plan works perfectly on my Visor Dlx. I dont ever remember any of this issue about advertising or a navigation bar. To be honest, I have only used the service from my desktop twice. I have used it on my Visor daily for about 1 wk without any trouble. There is no navigation bar or advertising on my Visor browsers...Avantgo or Browse-it (which came with the Thinmodem).

To set up your Visor with the ATT worldnett service to obtain the numerical code that represents your username and password. You will need to enter these number/letter sequences in the Network settings. To get this code you need to call up customer service and potentially wait up to 30 minutes on hold until a rep gets to you.


Posted by spragg on 01-01-2001 07:55 AM:

I use Juno on mine and I love it. I haven't gotten a busy signal yet, and there are a lot of access numbers. This is a problem with Worldnet. I couldn't find any numbers for my area. Just use RASspy to get the real loginname and password and you're golden.


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