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Posted by MvPulsts on 04-18-2002 03:41 AM:

laptop computer suggestion

Got rid of some clutter in the house and I will soon have $1600 to play with and Im thinking Laptop.

here's the question.. which ones do you think have the best bang for the buck? I don't have to blow the whole wad on the system, I have 1600 total to play with. Any ideas??


Posted by dampeoples on 04-18-2002 04:25 AM:

Whaddya gonna do with it?


Posted by MvPulsts on 04-18-2002 04:32 AM:

OH, Sorry. It's gonna be a general desktop replacement. Im tred of wrestling the wife over who gets to use the desktop hen we're both here.

I will have my full office suite on it as well as a full set of webdesign stuff.

general office work
web design work (dreamweaver, flash, etc)
web surfing etc...

Ill use it on the road to show off design work. watch dvd's.

nothing super duper as you can see. im not a big gamer. but i do like nice systems...


Posted by dick-richardson on 04-18-2002 05:03 AM:

If you like mac or are os indifferant, I'd suggest an ibook. Even if you would like windows, i'd suggest a good, hard look at the ibook. If you have your heart set on a windows computer, look at something as close to an ibook as possible - possibly a gateway solo, then buy the ibook anyway.

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Posted by homer on 04-18-2002 05:05 AM:

For Web work, nothing beats a Mac. All of your Macromedia software runs great in OSX, and, as it's also linux, you can run all your server development apps on there as well (Apache, MySQL, PHP, etc...).

$1600 will get you the iBook...a nice machine, but I'd reach for a few extra $$ and snag a TiBook...can't beat the screen on those (+ you can always hook up a second monitor to it).

Otherwise, if you are a windows fan, get a Dell. (Isn't that the default reply when someone asks 'what computer should I buy?') ;o)

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Posted by ToolkiT on 04-18-2002 05:11 AM:

I have been using Toshiba Tecra's the last 5 years and must say I like them a lot....

I never used a non Toshiba laptop so I can't realy compare..

The iBook is a good choise too, if I would have some extra cash I would buy a new iMac or an iBook because I never owned an Mac and they look cool and the new Mac OS X get great reviews...

Just go to the store and test drive a couple, see what you like best..

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Posted by ToolkiT on 04-18-2002 05:34 AM:

also check out this thread:
http://treodiscussion.visorcentral....;threadid=22868
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Posted by MvPulsts on 04-18-2002 06:13 AM:

yea, i was part of that other thread. looks really cool, gonna have to look into that

If I get an Ibook or apple anything, the wife will immediately confiscate it. they use macs where she works and she really likes them.

the other hitch is all my development stuff and mostof our other stuff is PC. maybe i could disguise the tibook..?


Posted by Techie2000 on 04-18-2002 02:52 PM:

Buy the Windoze machine and installl Linux on it.


Posted by dick-richardson on 04-18-2002 03:02 PM:

That is something to consider - how much of an investment into pc software you have. Of course, you can install Virtual PC.

homer, dell has been slipping lately, IMO. I'd suggest a gateway (who has managed to scrape some quality together again) over a dell.

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Posted by Madkins007 on 04-18-2002 03:41 PM:

Not that it is exactly what you are looking for, but I got a great deal on a good Dell at www.overstock.com, and a friend got one at egghead's auction site (is that still going?)

My Dell may not be cutting edge, but it is dang good and I paid under $900 for it.

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Posted by bookrats on 04-18-2002 04:55 PM:

Thumbs down Dell

FYI, I just went through a very annoying, 1.5 month long process of getting Dell Customer Service to refund a monitor I returned. It's amazing how consistently and poorly they performed during the entire process. Once or twice might be an aberration; but 5 surly representatives and 4 screw-ups in the shipping and crediting process points to some major problems in that part of Dell.

Not that this is any reflection on the quality of their PCs, per se; but if you do get something from them, I hope you don't run into any situation that requires dealing with their Customer Support group.

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Posted by ehaseltine on 04-18-2002 07:23 PM:

I got a Toshiba Satellite 3000-S304 around Christmas - I've been very happy with it.

It didn't come with much software, but the price/performance ratio was right for me.


Posted by Toby on 04-18-2002 07:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ehaseltine
I got a Toshiba Satellite 3000-S304 around Christmas - I've been very happy with it.

It didn't come with much software, but the price/performance ratio was right for me.

Wholeheartedly agreed. My wife's Toshiba Satellite has been a great little laptop for her (Satellite 1675DVD purchased early 2000) and is still working fine. The only problem she had with it was the letters wearing off the keys, but we ordered a keyboard skin, and that stopped that.


Posted by Cerulean on 04-18-2002 10:57 PM:

Dell or Apple ...

Like most everyone else, if you want to go with a windows box, I think the Dell Inspirion series is a good choice (I like the 8100 and 4100 series.. just setup my sister with an 8100 w/14" 1400x1050 display --- very very nice unit...)

I like the Apple iBooks and powerbooks -- though unfortunately in your price range, your going to max out at a 12.1" display -- might be a bit too small if your using apps with lots of toolbars/etc...

BTW -- You can setup a website development environment on both OS X and Windows (Apache/PHP/MySQL running in the background w/dreamweaver/flash/browser in the foreground) -- Homer made it sound like thats a OS X exclusive -- and a second note, OS X IS NOT LINUX!!! <grr homer..> though it is a UNIX based product, so it is similar.


Posted by homer on 04-19-2002 06:34 AM:

quote:
OS X IS NOT LINUX!


Oh man! That was one hell of a typo on my part! Duh.

You can, of course, throw Linux on your mac, but OSX is not Linux. It is a flavor of *nix.

For the record, I had a terrible exprience with getting a Toshiba fixed...probably more Best Buy's fault than Toshiba's, of course. I've had nightmares with Gateways. They are funny machines. Haven't played with one lately, so maybe they've gotten better. We've had a lot of luck with Compaq laptops. Seem solid and haven't had any problems with the three we've gone through so far.

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Posted by Toby on 04-19-2002 02:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by homer
[...] For the record, I had a terrible exprience with getting a Toshiba fixed...probably more Best Buy's fault than Toshiba's, of course.
Oog...I'd agree. OTOH, I wouldn't go to any retailer for service. Their purpose is buy, return, or exchange only AFAIC.
quote:
I've had nightmares with Gateways. They are funny machines. Haven't played with one lately, so maybe they've gotten better. [...]

Way back when I had one ('91 or '92), they couldn't be beat. Great quality and service. A couple years later, Ted Waitt took a more hands-off approach and I heard nothing but horror stories. Maybe now that he seems to be taking a more active role again, they'll get back to where they were.


Posted by MvPulsts on 04-20-2002 02:26 AM:

sager notebooks?

Been doing some looking around and stumbled accross these folks. www.sagernotebooks.com anyone have experience with these folks? The machines look nice and the specs seem good..

Matt


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